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Beginning Vistalite Repair - Help with crack requested

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Hello!

I am beginning a repair on a vistalite kit that I've had since my childhood. I didn't always treat it so well, it saw several years of hard playing/touring with various bands, and it's been sitting in a friend's garage for the last few years. I've finally decided to give it the treatment it deserves, and I am going to attempt a full restoration. Most of the drums have scratches, but they all seem to be of the type that are easily fixable with Micro Mesh and/or Novus. However, the floor tom has a crack that started at the damper hardware and continues about 1/3 of the way down the drum.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/ropesofsilver/20131007_close.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/ropesofsilver/20131007_full.jpg[/IMG]

I've searched through this forum (and others), and it appears that I might be able to fix this crack with Weld-On glue. Is this correct? I know that most people use it for seam cracks, but would it be possible to use it on a non-seam crack?

Also, for what it's worth, as far as I can remember, this crack has never grown much (if at all), and I have had the kit for over 20 years.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Josh

Posted on 11 years ago
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One other question: what is your favorite technique for repairing rusted/pitted hardware? In the past (probably 15 years ago) I've used 0000 gauge steel wool. I'm not sure it's the best method.

Edit: After more searching, I see that you fellows already answered this question here.

Posted on 11 years ago
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LOL - I love it when guys first show up, do a little homework and ask and then answer their own questions in sequential posts. There's a ton of info at this site, I always use the Search feature before I post a question and damn if 9 times out of 10 I find the answers before I even ask.

Welcome to VDF!

* There is a thinner/runnier version of Weld-On which is meant to be applied to fill spider cracks with a syringe. You have to be real careful though. It's easy to push the plunger on the needle a bit too hard and then you have a clean-up on your hands. Very gentle, steady pressure on the plunger will let it ooze out into the small cracks. Use gravity! Angle the drum shell so the glue runs in the direction you want it to. You'll probably have to wet sand afterwards! Just take your time. I have repaired a bunch of acrylic drum shells over the years. Each job/crack is different.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Josh, glad to have you with us here. Also glad you found the answers to the questions you had on past threads. It takes awhile to learn how to navigate your way around here on the VDF. If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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Thank you both for your welcome!

Purdie, I'm going to order the Weld-On #4, which appears to be the watery-type. Would you recommend getting the RH200 or HYPOSY2020 applicator?

Posted on 11 years ago
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Welcome! I know nothung about these Vistalite drums, just want to say welcome. You will get the help you need here thats for sure.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 11 years ago
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From JoshuaLuke

Thank you both for your welcome!Purdie, I'm going to order the Weld-On #4, which appears to be the watery-type. Would you recommend getting the RH200 or HYPOSY2020 applicator?

Joshua - either/or will do! As long as the delivery system has a fine needle. You don't want glue all over the place, just inside the crack. Allow 24 hours for curing. Sealing the crack does not guarantee it won't return. It's just a way to strengthen the shell in hopes of the crack not becoming any worse than it is already.

Make a few practice runs with the syringe/bottle (whatever you use,) on some scrap -before- applying glue to the actual crack on the shell. That way when you do the repair you'll know just how much pressure to use to get a good bead of glue flowing.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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I recommend you lay a cloth down on the inside of the shell in case some drips through so you don't get a mess inside on the opposite side. Purdy's suggestion works well. I've used it a couple of times.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From jccabinets

Welcome! I know nothung about these Vistalite drums, just want to say welcome. You will get the help you need here thats for sure.

Thanks, jc!

Posted on 11 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

Joshua - either/or will do! As long as the delivery system has a fine needle. You don't want glue all over the place, just inside the crack. Allow 24 hours for curing. Sealing the crack does not guarantee it won't return. It's just a way to strengthen the shell in hopes of the crack not becoming any worse than it is already.Make a few practice runs with the syringe/bottle (whatever you use,) on some scrap -before- applying glue to the actual crack on the shell. That way when you do the repair you'll know just how much pressure to use to get a good bead of glue flowing.John

Excellent ideas, thanks! I have ordered the glue and the RH200 at the recommendation of the guy at ePlastics. He said the RH200 is a little easier to control. We shall see!

I'm getting really excited to start all of this. I'm also waiting for my Micro Mesh kit to arrive, so it looks like I'll have to get started with the hardware and the bass drum hoops. Painting the hoops is a little daunting, but there are some great threads here with a lot of helpful information. :)

Posted on 11 years ago
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