No they aren't. they're after market.

So both types are Non WFL?

thank you

Those look like the bass drum rods from an 80's black & white badge Ludwig Rocker kit. Probably made in Asia in origin. Those T-rods started appearing on low-end Ludwig bass drums in the late 70's/early 80's somewhere around there.

Look at the T-rod in the photo at about 4/5 o'clock on the bass drum.

John

MIJ/MIT T-rods. The handle should be held to the actual rod with splines.

I mis-labeled this thread title.

I typed "lugs" instead of T-rods.

You know.........there are a lot of parts and part names on these drums.

Stayed up late last night playing drums.

That.........and I am old.

OK, so maybe Ludwig Rockers era or..........MIJ.

thanks guys