That's not a Sabian cymbal ... as you've no doubt already deduced.

[COLOR="Purple"]That's a curiosity for sure. Does the seller know if it's B8 or B20 ?[/COLOR]

I had a Sabian Manhatten ride that was GREAT. This was about 10 yrs or so, I'm guessing.

Looks legit to me.

That looks like a crappy stamped cymbal.

Don't be so quick on that. It resembles the 20" I had which was hammered and was one of the best Sabians I ever owned. It could be a gem that looks funky in the picture.

You could be correct. I've been wrong once or twice. No worries.

But, the stamp is not a Sabian stamp. It resembles an import stamp from a few years ago. That's all. No big. Also, the bell is too large to be a Sabian Manhattan. The hammering is almost nil on this one, and the profile is quite a bit more pronounced.

I could be wrong.

It wouldn't be the first time.

I would surmise that $25 is just a bit too expensive on this one. But then again, I have had a few stamped cymbals that surprised me.

[COLOR="Purple"]There is NOTHING about that cymbal which says Sabian...not the logo, not the profile.

It is NOT a Sabian Manhattan...But it might not be a piece of crap either...the pic is too bad to tell. It could be a piece of crap, or it could be something better, like some sorta Italian stencil....[/COLOR]