ufip ufip or try ufip

Thanks,dardrum!:)

The UFiPs are great.

You could also consider Zildjian New Beats (particularly the 2013 retro spec ones) or Armands. Swing by somewhere like mycymbal com and you can check them out. The 2013 retro spec A series have a great big A. If you look through the mycymbal offerings you can spot the difference.

Armands (now discontinued because the retro spec New Beats do the same thing)

http://mycymbal.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=31_4&products_id=8868

There don't seem to be any 14" 2013 spec New Beats in stock. I suppose that says something. Here are some 13" (which also shows the new big A logo with no Avedis in ink)

http://mycymbal.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=31_4&products_id=11123

I use a set of 14" A Zildjian New Beats that I've had since I started playing in 1977. Not all Zildjians are created equal, but this is a magic pair.

You may have some luck at pawn shops or craigslist. Let your ears lead the way ... you may find a set of ZHTs or B8s that may fill your needs (doubtful, but my point is not to limit yourself).