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Any ideas for this Rogers shell?

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I was in a pawn shop a few weeks ago and picked up a Rogers concert tom in nasty, dinged up white cortex. I only paid $10 and it had a script badge that I needed plus a decent shape swivo mount and lugs, t rods etc. All will be used on another project.

I'm not a fan of concert toms, and 14 * 10 is my least favorite tom size, so I've no plans to restore it to it's original glory, but after stripping the hardware and the wrap, it struck me that it could maybe be repurposed as a snare drum. This is way beyond my limited woodworking abilities, but because it was 10" deep, there's easily enough undrilled wood to make a 5" deep snare shell, but the bearing edges would need to be cut and the re ring removed from the original batter side and put in the correct place.

I have most of the hardware I'd need... lugs and rims, just need to find a throw.

Does this sound doable, and if so, whose the man for the job?

Here's a picture of the shell, and I would make sure that it is clearly identified as a 'faux' Rogers snare.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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You could get a 6" deep-dish snare out of that shell! Excellent idea. We have members here who are expert at cutting down shells. If one of them sees this thread, they'll give you some advice. Wouldn't take much to do it either; cut-down, re-ring, edges, and beds. You could get that done for about $100. - $125. Call Precision Drum Co. and ask Andrea how much it would cost to do it. Might be do-able!

John

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Posted on 9 years ago
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I would do it! Sounds like a good projekt! You will have a fine Snaredrum by the time it´s finished. I am to far away to cut it and do the edges for you, sorry:-)

best regards

Christian

Posted on 9 years ago
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Slightly OT, sorry. Anyone in the Phoenix area that could handle a job of this type? I too have a 14x10 Rogers tom that I would love to make a snare out of. I was thinking of turning it into a sad FT but just reading this thread have me the idea of making a matching snare for the kit I'm working on.



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Posted on 9 years ago
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From King Louie

Slightly OT, sorry. Anyone in the Phoenix area that could handle a job of this type? I too have a 14x10 Rogers tom that I would love to make a snare out of. I was thinking of turning it into a sad FT but just reading this thread have me the idea of making a matching snare for the kit I'm working on.

He's not in AZ but CA. Latindrum does good work. His website is On The Edge drum services.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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I have done this in the past to make a 5" Koa snare from a concert tom shell. You can make a maximum height by cutting the shell at the top edge of the lowest mount or lug hole. This will leave small holes in the edge that will be removed when cutting an edge. You can get an extra 1/4" out of the height that way.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

You could get a 6" deep-dish snare out of that shell! Excellent idea. We have members here who are expert at cutting down shells. If one of them sees this thread, they'll give you some advice. Wouldn't take much to do it either; cut-down, re-ring, edges, and beds. You could get that done for about $100. - $125. Call Precision Drum Co. and ask Andrea how much it would cost to do it. Might be do-able!John

Probably get a 7" if you use the bottom lug hole as the new top and the one mount hole as the top screw of the damper.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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Excellent ideas and nice to know it's do-able. I will send an e mail to On The Edge tonight.

After a crappy day at work, it's nice to sit down in the evening and read some well thought out, encouraging responses to a thread I started this morning. This is a cool community.

Best Regards To All,

Peter

Posted on 9 years ago
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Great idea. I've done a couple of marching snare conversions with great success. It's pretty easy to do yourself, if you take your time.

Here's my thoughts:

Based on the existing holes, you could cut the shell to get the following depths: 5", 5.5", 6" or 7". Give or take an 1/8" to 1/4".

Removing a re-ring is not difficult, but you need to have patience. I've used a wallpaper steamer to soften up the glue and a putty knife to separate the re-ring from the shell.

If your looking for a deep drum, you could go 7" and 8 double lugs (16 total) might fit. It depends on where the holes end up. Anything smaller and I'd use up to 10 single lugs. Might as well find a Rogers strainer to complete the Rogers look. There's the Swiv-o-matic, Sta-tite and the Bantam strainers. Essentially the bases are the same, it's the face that's different. I'm sure a member would have one for a very reasonable price.

If the heads wouldn't be too tight, I'd wrap it in a nice Glass Glitter to match an existing kit. I just finished restoring a 60's Rogers kit in Silver Glass Glitter and the wrap just pops out at you.

I know you probably want to keep the cost down, but I'd let a professional do the work if you are not comfortable. Precision Drum is a good start.

[INDENT]Shell Cutting - $10

Bearing Edges (per pair) - $41

Snare Beds - $35

Strainer/Butt Plate - $20

Lug Holes (per 2 hole lug) - $3

Remove/Install re-ring - $???[/INDENT]

~$130 for a 5" to 6" - 8 lug drum or ~$136 for a 10 lug drum

~$154 for a 7" - 16 lug drum

*without re-ring installation - guess of $20

Wrap:

Sparkle - $31.50 to $37.50

Glitter - $40 to $49

*you install

Strainer: $40 to $60

So here's the dilemma, how much is too much? A rough minimum cost would be ~$220 for a 5" - 8 lug in sparkle and a maximum would be ~$280 for a 7" - 16 lug in glitter. For ~$100 more, you might be able to get a genuine Rogers 8 lug Holiday/Tower/Powertone.

Hope this information is helpful. I'm not trying to turn you off on the idea, but conversion/reproductions can easily get very expensive, if you don't watch the costs. I'd say find a friend with the proper tools (table saw, a lot of clamps, router) and general woodworking knowledge and do the work yourself. You only have $10 into the shell, so no big loss if something doesn't go as planned.

Good luck and keep us posted.

-Tim

Posted on 9 years ago
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Peter,

I had a Big R 10x14 which I had no use for, so I simply converted it to a 10x14 concert snare. No cutting the shell down, and no cutting new bearing edges. Only had to file in the snare beds. Sounded surprisingly good.

But.... if you find out your project is getting too pricey and isn't worth it , I'll gladly buy that shell from you at twice what you paid. :D I actually am looking for a Rogers 14" concert tom shell. PM me if you're not married to the project yet.

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 9 years ago
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