I just looked at the rockagon pies, they are not round? unusual design, kind of like a octagon...weird. Falling Do
Ha! Yes.
Man, those things are wonderful, though. The 18 and 20 can act as a ride, have a great bell, and open up with an unreal aggressive crash that is much louder and more rough sounding than a standard crash. Just love them for rock.
Don't laugh, but I've actually used the 18 in a jazz setting. I would ride on it and swipe it lightly to open it up for a dragon crash effect. It worked beautifully.