My brother dug these out of our grandparents' basement for me. I'm wondering if anyone might have any information on them. The only clues are the crest on the pedal and a "made in Japan" stamp on the very edge of the top of the 12" cymbal. The 12" is thin and seems like it would be a splash, but sounds pretty bad. The 14" is medium weight and sounds pretty good as a crash. It has some kind of grommet in the hole. The holes on both cymbals were large enough to fit on my stands, but not with the plastic protectors. I'm guessing these came with a Japanese kit sometime in the 70's. I'm only thinking 70's because that's when my uncles would have been teenagers. Any info would be interesting to have, so feel free to chime in. Thanks!