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A HOT lead....and a scale question

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So I am at a new barber shop this morning. Well, it's an old barber shop, and I needed a haircut. So I sit down in the chair and we start talking. He has a few old radio's on a shelf in front of me, and one thing leads to another; "I have a big, old cymbal you might be interested in." Well, that's enough for me to want to at least check it out.

So, I am going to stop by later this week and he is going to dig it out.

My question is, what do you cymbal guys use to weigh you cymbals?

I call tell you everything you need to know about drums, but am weak on the cymbals, help me out here. I know a bit about the Zildjian logo's, but give me some schooling on weights.Help2

Drum Kits
1965 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Blue
1966 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Black
1969 Ludwig BB Blue Oyster Keystone Clubdate
1971 Ludwig BB Black Oyster
Early 60's Camco Oaklawns Champagne Sparkle
Posted on 8 years ago
#1
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I use our kitchen scales!

Posted on 8 years ago
#2
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From schmegeggie

So I am at a new barber shop this morning. Well, it's an old barber shop, and I needed a haircut. So I sit down in the chair and we start talking. He has a few old radio's on a shelf in front of me, and one thing leads to another; "I have a big, old cymbal you might be interested in." Well, that's enough for me to want to at least check it out.So, I am going to stop by later this week and he is going to dig it out.My question is, what do you cymbal guys use to weigh you cymbals? I call tell you everything you need to know about drums, but am weak on the cymbals, help me out here. I know a bit about the Zildjian logo's, but give me some schooling on weights.Help2

Weights can vary significantly depending on the size of the cymbal and even between cymbals of the same diameter. The weight measurements are generally in grams. As an example, a 20" ride cymbal can range from around 1700g for a very thin model to 2500 grams of more for a heavy model. The medium thin and medium models in that size, which are often favored by cymbal aficionados, range from approximately 1800-2250g. For 22" rides that number would generally be arround 2000 to 2700 grams. Of course these these are approximations. Some people, for example, have 22" cymbals verging on 3000g. If you get get a good picture of the stamp and give us the diameter and weight we can give you an idea of where it stands, weight wise, and it's approximate value.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 8 years ago
#3
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Excellent, sincerest thanks!

Drum Kits
1965 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Blue
1966 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Black
1969 Ludwig BB Blue Oyster Keystone Clubdate
1971 Ludwig BB Black Oyster
Early 60's Camco Oaklawns Champagne Sparkle
Posted on 8 years ago
#4
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OK so these are not the same make but here is a list of my Zyn and Super Zyn collection that may offer a guide weight range for older cymbals:

Zyn 12 inch Hi Hats nickel silver 400 / 400 g

Super Zyn 13 inch crash B20 625 g

Zyn 14 inch Hi Hats nickel silver 620 / 620 g

Super Zyn 14 inch crash B20 780 g

5 star Super Zyn 14 inch Hi Hats B20 A 840 / 840 g

5 star Super Zyn 14 inch Hi Hats B20 B 820 / 840 g

Super Zyn 15 inch Hi Hats B20 900 / 1030 g

5 star Super Zyn 15 inch Hi Hats B20 1080 / 1180 g

Super Zyn 15 inch crash B20 900 g

2 Star Zyn 16 inch crash nickel silver 930 g

Std Quality Zyn 16 inch crash B10 1000 g

Super Zyn 16 inch crash B20 1100 g

5 star Super Zyn 16 inch crash B20 1220 g

Super Zyn 18 inch crash/ride B20 1520 g

Super Zyn 20 inch crash/ride B20 1820 g

Super Zyn 20 inch ride B20 2040 g

5 star Super Zyn 20 inch ride B20 2300 g

Posted on 8 years ago
#5
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I use kitchen scales and this. http://budstein.com/cymbalweight/

Sysl krysu nenahradi!

-196?-72 6ply White Oyster Amati
-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
- Zildjian, Paiste, Zyn, Istanbul

http://bandzone.cz/blueswan
Posted on 8 years ago
#6
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Well, all hopes were dashed! Turned out to be a cheap Pearl cymbal from the 60's. 20", very light and cheap. I passed on it.

Drum Kits
1965 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Blue
1966 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Black
1969 Ludwig BB Blue Oyster Keystone Clubdate
1971 Ludwig BB Black Oyster
Early 60's Camco Oaklawns Champagne Sparkle
Posted on 8 years ago
#7
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I have had no problem with just wandering into the local PO... They don't seem to mind use of their scales...

Cheers

John

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 8 years ago
#8
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Sorry to hear that. Did you play it at all? It might be one of the old Js, or something from Italy which would be nice enough sounding.

Posted on 8 years ago
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