here my 60' ludwig stand i had it for a few years now i got it from a guy who did the ringo thing , now i just dont use it any more it still works fine nothing broken or stripped threads , just missing the original wing nut for the top . the chrome ain't mint but she still show's fine a little xtra cleaning would not hurt . i'm looking for a snare , paiste cymbal or what ever non mij /mit stuff nothing wrong with the stuff just not right now . if any of you guy's need this in your collection let me know .