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20" Avedis Identification Help

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...and thank you...everytime i look now on one of my cymbals...i see balls on it :-)

Posted on 11 years ago
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From digga

I first want to thank everybody for your help and effort to answer my post!But if anybody thinks i do not own that cymbal, i do, i have bought a from a guy who didn´t seem to know what vintage means! The cymbal sits right next to me, and it costs me 100$! Don´t know why anybody should claim others picture as theirs? I do not! The stamp picture is al little photoshoped to make the thin stamp a little better seen. Of course there´s a little difference in light!okay good to clear that :-)The dots i was talking about, are the dots in oddball´s attached picture...the two dots in the heard/balls/W, they are missing in mine, and i just saw stamps with them. The stamps position is not at the edge, it is more to the middle.I also talked to a guy from holland, who sells a lot of vintage cymbals, he dated the cymbal to the early 70´s and in his opinion this weight is quite rare.PS: for proof of ownership, some more pix, lathing, top and bottom :-)

Ha, I was thinking about the 3 dots in your original post, but it is those other two dots over on the left. I am a bit dotty. I don't know about when the two dots on the left appear and when they do not. Now I will have to check through the stamps I have, and ones I access to via photos. Maybe Drumaholic can tell us about those dots.

Sometimes people are not able to take a picture so they copy and paste one from somewhere else. That means we try and identify the wrong stamp. So I was just checking that those were photos from your cymbal. It looks really nice, and has balls even for such a thin one. ;)

Posted on 11 years ago
#12
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From digga

...and thank you...everytime i look now on one of my cymbals...i see balls on it :-)

You`de be surprised how many web sites sample and claim.

I`m sure drumaholic gets bored with writeing the same info a gazillion times over, so you got the short answer from him. If you search this site for...sixties or 60`s stamps, you`ll find all sorts of them that he`s given accurate and educated info on !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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From digga

I also talked to a guy from holland, who sells a lot of vintage cymbals, he dated the cymbal to the early 70´s and in his opinion this weight is quite rare.

Trust drumaholic's dating of this cymbal to the 60s.

Scott

Posted on 11 years ago
#14
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drumaholic knows!the little bit that he might not know could be balled up and stuck in a gnats behind!

mike

Posted on 11 years ago
#15
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Very informative. I'm coming away with all kinds of new imagery. Thanks for that one, Mike....marko

Posted on 11 years ago
#16
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From digga

I first want to thank everybody for your help and effort to answer my post!But if anybody thinks i do not own that cymbal, i do, i have bought a from a guy who didn´t seem to know what vintage means! The cymbal sits right next to me, and it costs me 100$! Don´t know why anybody should claim others picture as theirs? I do not! The stamp picture is al little photoshoped to make the thin stamp a little better seen. Of course there´s a little difference in light!okay good to clear that :-)The dots i was talking about, are the dots in oddball´s attached picture...the two dots in the heard/balls/W, they are missing in mine, and i just saw stamps with them. The stamps position is not at the edge, it is more to the middle.I also talked to a guy from holland, who sells a lot of vintage cymbals, he dated the cymbal to the early 70´s and in his opinion this weight is quite rare.PS: for proof of ownership, some more pix, lathing, top and bottom :-)

A couple of points. First this is a '60s stamp. All of us here know its a '60s stamp regardless of what some guy from Holland says. It has all the characteristics. Second, Drumaholic has also said its a 60's stamp and since he is the man who developed the timeline and nomenclature that is used for dating vintage Zildjian cymbals in the first place, I think we can take his word for it. Finally, your stamp is not very deeply impressed which could account for the missing dots.

Mark
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Posted on 11 years ago
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I also talked to a guy from holland, who sells a lot of vintage cymbals, he dated the cymbal to the early 70´s...

About that guy from Holland that you talked to......was his name Winnie Mensink by any chance?

If so, then that explains why you got the wrong answer.

Posted on 11 years ago
#18
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I will not mention any names here ;-)

Thank you all for that much detailed information! I think i´ve got the date!

Posted on 11 years ago
#19
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From digga

I will not mention any names here ;-)

I'll take that as a "yes".

Case closed.

Posted on 11 years ago
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