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[color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]It's a "nominal" 19" that actually measures 18-3/4". It was sold as a 19".[/size][/font][/color]

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/michaelpaiste/PICT4830.JPG[/img]

[color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]1439 grams[/size][/font][/color]

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/michaelpaiste/PICT4833.JPG[/img]

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/michaelpaiste/PICT4838.JPG[/img]

[color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]type I[/size][/font][/color]

[color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]It still has the original price written on the back which is what the price list for 1947-1949 period says, and also agrees with dates shown on my Avedis timeline for the type I trademark. You can also see where the size was written on the back. For nominal sizes they rounded up or down to the nearest half inch, depending on whether it was less than 1/2" over-size or less than 1/2" under-sized. On the front still visible but mostly faded is the "thin" ink stamp designation. This is very difficult to see unless viewed under just the right lighting.[/size][/font][/color]

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/michaelpaiste/Copy%20of%20PICT4833.JPG[/img]

[color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]19" A. paper-thin[/size][/font][/color]

Posted on 11 years ago
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From Drumaholic

[color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]It's a "nominal" 19" that actually measures 18-3/4". It was sold as a 19".[/size][/font][/color][img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/michaelpaiste/PICT4830.JPG[/img][color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]1439 grams[/size][/font][/color][img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/michaelpaiste/PICT4833.JPG[/img][img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/michaelpaiste/PICT4838.JPG[/img][color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]type I[/size][/font][/color][color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]It still has the original price written on the back which is what the price list for 1947-1949 period says, and also agrees with dates shown on my Avedis timeline for the type I trademark. You can also see where the size was written on the back. For nominal sizes they rounded up or down to the nearest half inch, depending on whether it was less than 1/2" over-size or less than 1/2" under-sized. On the front still visible but mostly faded is the "thin" ink stamp designation. This is very difficult to see unless viewed under just the right lighting.[/size][/font][/color][img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/michaelpaiste/Copy%20of%20PICT4833.JPG[/img][color=black][font=times new roman][size=+1]20" A. paper-thin[/size][/font][/color]

Wow! Now that's a keeper!

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 11 years ago
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Nice.

The link to the soundfile seems to go to the right file, but the visible text says 20" A paper-thin. Copy/paste without the text change from this earlier thread?

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=40461

If I had to choose between the 20" paper thin and this 19" it would be hard. They are both so nice.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From zenstat

Nice. The link to the soundfile seems to go to the right file, but the visible text says 20" A paper-thin. Copy/paste without the text change from this earlier thread?http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=40461If I had to choose between the 20" paper thin and this 19" it would be hard. They are both so nice.

Right. Now rectified.

Posted on 11 years ago
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I've been checking out this 19" thin and that delicious 20" paper-thin (can't stay away) and I was wondering about the finish on them. A number of Trans Stamps have a burnished look to the finish. Certainly my 18" does. Not full on "brilliant" which came much later. But they do look a bit burnished. I believe you have put that down to the lathing tools doing the burnishing Bill. Or am I mis-remembering?

Anyway, in this 19" thin I see little bit more of a matt finish, compared to the 20" paper-thin. Do you know what proportion of the Trans Stamp cymbals tend to show the burnishing? And are differences in the level of burnishing related to anything else you know of in terms of chronology? Or am I looking entirely at artifacts of lighting in the photographs and I wouldn't even be asking if I could hold them in my hands and turn them this way and that towards a light source?

Thanks for the chance to see and hear these lovelies.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From zenstat

I've been checking out this 19" thin and that delicious 20" paper-thin (can't stay away) and I was wondering about the finish on them. A number of Trans Stamps have a burnished look to the finish. Certainly my 18" does. Not full on "brilliant" which came much later. But they do look a bit burnished. I believe you have put that down to the lathing tools doing the burnishing Bill. Or am I mis-remembering? Anyway, in this 19" thin I see little bit more of a matt finish, compared to the 20" paper-thin. Do you know what proportion of the Trans Stamp cymbals tend to show the burnishing? And are differences in the level of burnishing related to anything else you know of in terms of chronology? Or am I looking entirely at artifacts of lighting in the photographs and I wouldn't even be asking if I could hold them in my hands and turn them this way and that towards a light source? Thanks for the chance to see and hear these lovelies.

Yes the shinier finish is actually due to the type of lathing tool, and I think some cymbals got an even smoother almost mirror-like finish because they were trying to create a crash or a crash/ride. These have more shimmer than the deeper lathing types do. The 20" is one of those. But the 19" looks like it does because most of the old A's in the 1940's were lathed differently than later era types with finer more closely spaced grooves. I'll try to get a close-up of the grooves on this cymbal to show you what I mean.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Nice, has that "I'm as K of an A as you're going to get" look to it

Posted on 11 years ago
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From deepsoulradio

Nice, has that "I'm as K of an A as you're going to get" look to it

I agree with that. I've got one more in that same category coming up next.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Here's a 19 I used to have in that same vein (don't remember weight, more med-thin though)

[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w114/emptyground/19_trans_2.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 11 years ago
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Do you know if its a type I?

Posted on 11 years ago
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