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Sjc3070 04-21-2020 05:48 PM

Rogers Bread and Butter metal Dynasonic lug issues
 
Hey all, I have early bread and butter dynasonic that the lugs unfortunately are all cracked badly and broken clip plates on the inside. I ordered some of the reissued snare lugs however the holes on the snare themselves are 2 different sizes which doesn’t allow the lug insert to fit in the bottom hole closest to the reso edge. Did I grab the wrong lugs or what’s my best bet? Thanks!

amosguy 04-21-2020 10:51 PM

Re: Rogers Bread and Butter metal Dynasonic lug issues
 
Make sure there are no metal inserts in the shell holes. There were used by Rogers for the wood shells. Should tap out easily if there.

Sjc3070 04-22-2020 04:18 PM

Re: Rogers Bread and Butter metal Dynasonic lug issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amosguy (Post 459814)
Make sure there are no metal inserts in the shell holes. There were used by Rogers for the wood shells. Should tap out easily if there.

No metal inserts the bottom hole is however noticeably slightly smaller.

K.O. 04-22-2020 06:32 PM

Re: Rogers Bread and Butter metal Dynasonic lug issues
 
The brass lugs did not have the threaded bosses in them as the bolts just threaded into the flat tabs. Therefore if the holes were bigger than the bolts the lugs could be misaligned on the shell, but if you make the holes just the right size it slows down production as the worker has to align everything perfectly. What Rogers did was use spacers on one set of holes so it would line up right every time. It sounds like with your drum they drilled one set of holes smaller in leu of the spacers. Perhaps it predates the spacers. I'm not that well versed on Rogers stuff but I believe that is the reasoning behind the different sized holes.

Sjc3070 04-22-2020 07:34 PM

Re: Rogers Bread and Butter metal Dynasonic lug issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K.O. (Post 459835)
The brass lugs did not have the threaded bosses in them as the bolts just threaded into the flat tabs. Therefore if the holes were bigger than the bolts the lugs could be misaligned on the shell, but if you make the holes just the right size it slows down production as the worker has to align everything perfectly. What Rogers did was use spacers on one set of holes so it would line up right every time. It sounds like with your drum they drilled one set of holes smaller in leu of the spacers. Perhaps it predates the spacers. I'm not that well versed on Rogers stuff but I believe that is the reasoning behind the different sized holes.

Correct the real issue is the difference from the tabs to the lug hole insert change. It’s very early even for a B&B so that could be the case.


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