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poppy79424 05-12-2012 01:03 PM

Ludwig Canister throne
 
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One of you Vintage Drum Gurus sent me a canister throne top to reupholster. I have been on a mission to find the correct catches for this. I found the exact Brass Draw Catch for it, but I cant find the hook catch for it. I did find something that might work though. Does anyone have one? Here's a few pics of what we're looking for.

hisdudnes 05-12-2012 08:37 PM

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hey poppy!

oh my gosh! i'm looking for one of the latch things that you found!

i had a quick look on the internet but the only one that i can find is a gold looking brass one - whereas yours looks like its chrome or something???

http://www.natman.com/prodinfo_itemd...=492&item=1852

thats the one i can find on the website - is that the one you bought?

vintagemore2000 05-12-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hisdudnes (Post 187872)
hey poppy!

oh my gosh! i'm looking for one of the latch things that you found!

i had a quick look on the internet but the only one that i can find is a gold looking brass one - whereas yours looks like its chrome or something???

http://www.natman.com/prodinfo_itemd...=492&item=1852

thats the one i can find on the website - is that the one you bought?

here give this a look.http://www.atcoproducts.com/5200minilatch.html

poppy79424 05-12-2012 09:46 PM

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Mine is brass. You can find one a home depot, lowes, ace hardware, sutherlands. Cost under $4


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Originally Posted by hisdudnes (Post 187872)
hey poppy!

oh my gosh! i'm looking for one of the latch things that you found!

i had a quick look on the internet but the only one that i can find is a gold looking brass one - whereas yours looks like its chrome or something???

http://www.natman.com/prodinfo_itemd...=492&item=1852

thats the one i can find on the website - is that the one you bought?


poppy79424 05-12-2012 09:50 PM

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There are countless latches, hasps, and catches. If it werent for the badge location you could use two of the draw catches.....The one I found is very similar to the original. It also has the galvinized finish like the original. Ill send it to ya anyway.....

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vintagemore2000 05-12-2012 10:22 PM

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Thank you ever so much!!!.
yeah there's always got to be a bump in the road on these ole restro jobs!!! But since I've not seen but one other WFL canister throne I want to get this one back to as useful as possible it's going to get used not to look at.

hisdudnes 05-12-2012 11:07 PM

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poppy, is your latch brass one gold or silver?

your photo looks silver - the product listing on the website looks gold

poppy79424 05-13-2012 07:02 AM

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THe throne has a gold / brass latch on one side and a silver / zinc latch on the oppisite side. Here are pics of the gold / brass latch I found.






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Originally Posted by hisdudnes (Post 187891)
poppy, is your latch brass one gold or silver?

your photo looks silver - the product listing on the website looks gold


poppy79424 05-13-2012 07:06 AM

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Here are pics of the silver / zinc hook type latch on the oppisite side. This is what we are looking for. This throne belongs to Vintagemore2000

mlayton 05-13-2012 09:08 AM

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i'm also looking for the same exact part. if you find a batch or an alternative solution, i'd be interested as well.

mike

vibes 05-13-2012 09:35 AM

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I would absolutely love to have a silver sparkle cannister throne like the one in the picture. For some reason I had never realized those thrones had badges. I also wonder if there are some type of wood cannisters used by companies for shipping parts or items that you could possibly salvage and make one. The current ones made by Ludwig are a little pricey.

vintagemore2000 05-13-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mlayton (Post 187933)
i'm also looking for the same exact part. if you find a batch or an alternative solution, i'd be interested as well.

mike

Mike here is what I've come up with so far!! just a note this Ludwig is not the drum company but a latch and hasp company called Ludwig http://www.atcoproducts.com/5200minilatch.html

mlayton 05-13-2012 11:01 AM

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thanks for that mark. how much are those? i didnt see a price.

mike

vintagemore2000 05-13-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mlayton (Post 187945)
thanks for that mark. how much are those? i didnt see a price.

mike

Of course, I don't know either I'll contact them Monday to get some prices for us, I've still got to make sure this is the correct fit for what we need.

poppy79424 05-13-2012 11:51 AM

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It says the hole spacing is 7/8" isnt yours 1 1/4"

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Originally Posted by vintagemore2000 (Post 187946)
Of course, I don't know either I'll contact them Monday to get some prices for us, I've still got to make sure this is the correct fit for what we need.


vintagemore2000 05-13-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by poppy79424 (Post 187949)
It says the hole spacing is 7/8" isn't yours 1 1/4"

correcto mundo!! I'm going to see if they will custom make them, they stated they do custom work also?

mlayton 05-13-2012 12:39 PM

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mines got extra holes there already. so, won't really be a problem here.

mike

vintagemore2000 05-17-2012 06:21 PM

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Ok, so here is where Myself and Poppy are now, First off let me give a big!!! shout out to Poppy the color match on this restro job is almost dead spot on!!!! we are sooo lucky to have such a diverse membership here on this forum. I try to support our network as much as possible, here is a good example of just that. poppy is a full time pro Auto trim and upholstery shop and he's a drummer who understands what you as a vintage restorer are after in a finished product!! ok I'm done!!LoLoLoLo

look at the first pic the throne top on the left is a 100% original 40's WFL. the throne top on the right is the Wfl Canister throne top that poppy just reupholstered Wow!!! I'm showing this first off without the mounting hardware, then I'll post some finished pics, I still don't have the very front latch yet? The last pic is what it looked like before we started on this project. This was an improper reupholster job someone had done many year's before!!

poppy79424 05-17-2012 07:04 PM

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Well hell, I covered the bottom of the seat and the edge of the vinyl is showing. I thought it sat down inside a lip from the trim around the throne.
Get a red marksalot and color the edge of the vinyl and it wont show so much. The old seat didnt have anything on bottom, and the tacks were all uneven and looked unprofessional to me. 1st pic is my bottom and second is the original bottom. I know it's hard to resist, but no funny remarks on my bottom! LoLoLoLo

poppy79424 05-17-2012 07:07 PM

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Im pretty sure the hardware on the original throne isnt original. It looks like someone added a bracket under the cover and retacked it to be able to sit the top on a newer throne stand

vintagemore2000 05-17-2012 07:35 PM

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Poppy here is the WFL throne it really is original, it's 1940's

poppy79424 05-17-2012 07:38 PM

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Ohhhhhh, I thought thet was off of another canister throne. My Bad!!!LoLoLoLo

vintagemore2000 05-17-2012 07:42 PM

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Hey did you get the steel mesh yet? And remember I ONLY use it with Simichrome polish wet not dry!

poppy79424 05-18-2012 07:39 AM

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Yes I did, Thanks!

neatbeats 05-11-2017 01:33 PM

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I've tracked down what appear to be the back latch parts of those 60s Ludwig canister thrones. Will let you know if it's a perfect fit or not. Crossing my fingers!

Zinc-Plated Screen & Storm Window Hanger Set

http://www.houseofantiquehardware.co...gers-storm-set

mlayton 05-11-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by neatbeats (Post 411761)
I've tracked down what appear to be the back latch parts of those 60s Ludwig canister thrones. Will let you know if it's a perfect fit or not. Crossing my fingers!

Zinc-Plated Screen & Storm Window Hanger Set

http://www.houseofantiquehardware.co...gers-storm-set

Looks a lot like it. Please let us know. I am in need of one. Thanks.

SlingerLynn 05-11-2017 02:16 PM

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I agree. Looks exactly like the one I got off eBay some months ago to replace the catch on mine that was badly rusted. I'd like to know if that's a perfect match. I wouldn't mind having a few spares.

Lynn


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