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Dan Boucher 11-05-2021 03:53 AM

Vintage as Vintage Can Be
 
This one is a superb example of vintage drums. What a great sounding and looking setup. Top shelf! Don't everyone dig into their pockets at once, but it's probably more rare than an oyster black Downbeat (with a much lower price). American drums at their best (quite a complement from a Rogers guy Walking).

https://reverb.com/item/46319820-sli...62-pink-oyster

larryz 11-05-2021 12:20 PM

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"That shalt not covet thy neighbor's drums".

11th Commandment.

O-Lugs 11-05-2021 01:41 PM

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^LOL larryz!



It's nice whenever you see a complete kit and not a shell pack being sold as a kit. That's the way kits were sold back in those days, after all -you got a matching hardware package that was brand-specific.

I don't know exactly when it happened, but the day came when suddenly you had to buy a shell pack and then add a snare drum and add a hardware package, separately....Gibralter and all that kind of stuff...

slingerfan 11-05-2021 02:47 PM

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A neat set to be sure but not exactly a true "time capsule" kit. Extra holes in toms are noted but badge grommets also appear non-original. Some of the hardware is not 100% correct either. May be nit-picky but they are seeking true "time capsule" money. Kudos for the low shipping price.

thin shell 11-05-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by larryz (Post 470311)
"That shalt not covet thy neighbor's drums".

11th Commandment.


There were originally 15 commandments. 11 through 15 were drum related. Fortunately Moses had a bit of an accident so it's all good.


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thin shell 11-05-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by slingerfan (Post 470317)
A neat set to be sure but not exactly a true "time capsule" kit. Extra holes in toms are noted but badge grommets also appear non-original. Some of the hardware is not 100% correct either. May be nit-picky but they are seeking true "time capsule" money. Kudos for the low shipping price.


It is still very nice, especially given how nice that rare wrap is.



Drilling those and putting those modern screw in grommets is a real shame. The only reason I can think someone would do that would be if they had internal microphones and didn't want the cables going through the existing grommets.

Dan Boucher 11-06-2021 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by slingerfan (Post 470317)
A neat set to be sure but not exactly a true "time capsule" kit. Extra holes in toms are noted but badge grommets also appear non-original. Some of the hardware is not 100% correct either. May be nit-picky but they are seeking true "time capsule" money. Kudos for the low shipping price.

Extra holes may be over-rated. Ringo, Ginger, Mitch and all the boys had Black & Decker mods in their kits. Yes Sir

Whoever did it was neat about it. Mic wires does seem a good possibility. I didn't pick up on the badge grommets. That is a bit odd. Would they have been polished aluminum originally?

Regardless, I would very much like to have it but find something a bit less than the necessary cash for that price range at the moment.

leedybdp 11-06-2021 09:15 AM

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I hope that the drums in this set are better matches with each other than the drums in this Rogers set that I owned for a few years. I used a cradle for the 10x14 tom as a second floor tom. I have never had seller's remorse for drum sets that I used to own. But, I really would like to have another set of vintage drums in the same wrap--preferably Slingerland or Leedy.

slingerfan 11-06-2021 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Boucher (Post 470330)
Extra holes may be over-rated. Ringo, Ginger, Mitch and all the boys had Black & Decker mods in their kits. Yes Sir

A Ringo (or Ginger, or Mitch) drum with extra holes or cigarette burns is a treasure, for everyone else's drums it is just damage (LOL).

slingerfan 11-06-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Boucher (Post 470330)
I didn't pick up on the badge grommets. That is a bit odd. Would they have been polished aluminum originally?

Yes, should be aluminum, and why were they changed? Raises other questions too. Still a super cool set.

Dan Boucher 11-07-2021 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by slingerfan (Post 470338)
A Ringo (or Ginger, or Mitch) drum with extra holes or cigarette burns is a treasure, for everyone else's drums it is just damage (LOL).

Well said.

Dan Boucher 11-07-2021 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by leedybdp (Post 470335)
I hope that the drums in this set are better matches with each other than the drums in this Rogers set that I owned for a few years. I used a cradle for the 10x14 tom as a second floor tom. I have never had seller's remorse for drum sets that I used to own. But, I really would like to have another set of vintage drums in the same wrap--preferably Slingerland or Leedy.

I've noticed that Rogers did seem to struggle more with that particular version of strata than the others.

idrum4fun 11-07-2021 05:04 AM

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A beautiful kit for sure! In regards to the air vents, the toms didn't come with them until around 1966. A previous owner was just compelled to add vents to these toms. While the air vents chosen aren't Slingerland style, at least they are the big die-cast vents, which would look out of place on the toms. And, at least they are positioned towards the back of the toms, which was a thoughtful touch! As to the grommet on the bass drum, it's hard to say why it was changed out, but the badge is most likely original. I love the smooth shell COB GK snare drum! I've got the same one for my 1965 Modern Solo...with no badges on the toms!

-Mark


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