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AtlantaDrumGuy 02-11-2013 10:17 AM

Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
I have a COB Ludwig snare. I tried putting 16 Puresounds, but it seems these might be a little wide on this drum. What do guys use?

GAR 02-11-2013 03:04 PM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
Vintage Ludwig wires, 20 strand w/ the plastic/amber ends with the patent # stamped in blue on one of the ends.

I've had all kinds of wires on mine from 40 strands and down, settled on these.

J!m 02-11-2013 06:41 PM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
I would think the 16 strand Puresounds would fit fine...

I have the earlier metal end script logo snares on my Acrolite and that works just fine... (Not sure how many snares are in there and I know it is not correct for the 70's era drum, but I had 'em laying around)

Purdie Shuffle 02-11-2013 07:21 PM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
Gar is correct... to get the sound out of the drum it was meant to make, you need original wires. Those late 50's, early 60's wires were a thinner gauge than modern ones and I think, more sensitive as a result. 60's wires like the one described by Gar come up on ebay all the time. If you're lucky, you'll catch a sale for some NOS wires! But 'original' really is the way to go.

Just my :2Cents:

John

sonofjaguare 02-11-2013 08:10 PM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
Ludwig 12 strands

mendozart 02-11-2013 08:23 PM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Purdie Shuffle (Post 234283)
Gar is correct... to get the sound out of the drum it was meant to make, you need original wires. Those late 50's, early 60's wires were a thinner gauge than modern ones and I think, more sensitive as a result. 60's wires like the one described by Gar come up on ebay all the time. If you're lucky, you'll catch a sale for some NOS wires! But 'original' really is the way to go.

Just my :2Cents:

John

Hey John,

Didn't you say you use Puresound "Blasters" on your COB?

zenstat 02-11-2013 08:27 PM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantaDrumGuy (Post 234170)
I have a COB Ludwig snare. I tried putting 16 Puresounds, but it seems these might be a little wide on this drum. What do guys use?

You make it sound like you have diagnosed some problem and decided it is caused by the width of the snares. If you tell us more about the problem itself, that might help focus the discussion. What is it about the Puresound 16s that isn't pleasing you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofjaguare (Post 234297)
Ludwig 12 strands

I had trouble on my 1963 Jazz Festival (excessive sympathetic buzz) and eventually found a NOS set of 12 Strand Ludwig snares (still in the box). They aren't as sensitive as wider snare sets but they solve the sympathetic buzz problems I was having.

Yes I know the COB shell will be different from the Jazzfest, but I'm giving this as an example of a success with Ludwig 12 strand snares as well as a tradeoff which took place in getting to the solution.

Purdie Shuffle 02-11-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mendozart (Post 234299)
Hey John,

Didn't you say you use Puresound "Blasters" on your COB?

Yarp! That's true. When I got the drum, the original wires were shot so I bought the Puresounds. They have since been replaced with Ludwig (plastic ends) 60's wires, so I'm good to go. The Puresounds were good... but the original Ludwig wires are better.

John

AtlantaDrumGuy 02-12-2013 10:04 AM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
It just seems to have a slightly long decay on the snare buzz. I have a couple of snare wires of different sizes around, and I think I'll do some experimenting.

sonofjaguare 02-12-2013 05:46 PM

Re: Wires for vintage COB Ludwig
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zenstat (Post 234301)
You make it sound like you have diagnosed some problem and decided it is caused by the width of the snares. If you tell us more about the problem itself, that might help focus the discussion. What is it about the Puresound 16s that isn't pleasing you?



I had trouble on my 1963 Jazz Festival (excessive sympathetic buzz) and eventually found a NOS set of 12 Strand Ludwig snares (still in the box). They aren't as sensitive as wider snare sets but they solve the sympathetic buzz problems I was having.

Yes I know the COB shell will be different from the Jazzfest, but I'm giving this as an example of a success with Ludwig 12 strand snares as well as a tradeoff which took place in getting to the solution.

I found the same thing with my Ludwig 30's NOB and 50's transitional wood snare.Seems the beds aren't that wide so I put those on and it took away that annoying buzz.It made the 30's NOB sound like a million bucks.My favorite snare of all time now.


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