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Breaking cymbals in

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This isn't that much about vintage, sorry.

I saw few posts on this forum, mentioning "breaking cymbals in" with mallets. How does this work? Is it necesarry to do? I recently got 14" Istanbul Mehmet Turk hi-hat as a birthday present - how do I (and do I?) break it in?

Thank you for answers and advice.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I think folks might be referring to the practice of rolling a cymbal with soft mallets at a high intensity for extended periods to loosen it up. I have read that Elvin Jones did it and then I have also been told that it doesn't really, noticeably work- two differing camps on the matter I believe.

Specifically speaking of Istanbul Mehmet cymbals- I am a huge fan of them and own a good number myself- I believe they come out onto the market quite fresh and the ones I have sound much darker and mellower after 5 years or so. I read some quote from Mehmet himself about his cymbals sound developing with aging. For a hi-hat cymbal I recommend just playing it regularly- the actual chick, open and closed sounds produced by a hihat are so short and controlled that I don't think it will be easy to tell the difference of rolling, or even aging for a good long time. Best of luck with it.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I have done this for many many years. But, I only use the mallets on cymbals larger than fifteen inches. Osaka is correct. I have found that it is especially noticeable on rides like a twenty or twenty two. I did a video some years ago to listen for a before and after difference. I found that, to my ears, it was substantial.

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caddywumpus and mcjnic have talked about this procedure, and Osaka Bop has described it perfectly. I used it on a ride cymbal, worked great. Get some mallets, and roll on the cymbal for 15 minutes. I made a cool exercise out of it, by, doing different dynamics up and down the cymbal. It was fun and did the trick. I'm thinking of buying some new hihats, so, I was wondering if this worked on smaller cymbals. If mcjnic has already done some study on this matter, I would go with his opinion.

Strange thought: if you (Gilnar) try it out on the hihats, you might want to split the hats up. Put the top on a cymbal stand and do the procedure, then, repeat with the bottom hat. If I get a new set of hihats, I'm going to try this. That's me.

Another way, just play those hats! Play 'em all the time.

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Well, then gentlemen, do you think it would make a difference on my B8pro

18" medium crash? I know its a lower end cymbal, but there is a really hgih pitched ring to it, and I want to get rid of it...do you think it would even make a difference on a lower end cymbal like my B8pro? Thanks.

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From Sonorforlife2000

Well, then gentlemen, do you think it would make a difference on my B8pro 18" medium crash? I know its a lower end cymbal, but there is a really hgih pitched ring to it, and I want to get rid of it...do you think it would even make a difference on a lower end cymbal like my B8pro? Thanks.

It can't hurt to try. The technique does not damage the cymbal at all. It could not make a B8 sound worse and it might warm it up a little. Maybe..

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My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
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USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Super B

It can't hurt to try.

There is one thing cymbal rolling can hurt. Your ears. Wear protection!

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hey guys, im curious if this would do anything to an older cymbal? Its a late 70s 20inch Zildjian Ride and its pretty thin..i dont think id call it a medium but anyways, i find that it has a weird overtone and i noticed that its shape is different from my 22 thats a bit older..the 20 is more rounded down near the edge of the cymbal and i wonder if thats why it sounds ..almost too tin-y or something..i dont have the vocab to explain but it sounds stiff or something. It has been played because when i bought it it had stick marks and a patina but maybe its never been "broken in" I do lay into it and even use it as a crash/ride but only playing louder rock and not with mallets. Or, should i bury it? I wish it was a bit darker with less sustain...like my 22 sounds.

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