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7 hole 16 inch rim?

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From jonnistix

You are correct! Most of the MIJ stuff is Slingerland knock-offs. The story is Bud was not as vigilent as the others...it costs money to persue trademark and patent infringements and he was notoriously "tight", some might even say a cheapskate....This is one of those lovely 3 ply shells. While you are on the hardware hunt, let me make a few suggestions that will ultimately make this a durable, lasting and playble drum. It all starts with a little sandpaper...100 and 220 grit multipurpose is your friend. Sand the interior smooth to your desire of either 100 or 220, just all in how much effort you want to put into it. Next, sand the edges smnooth. This should be done down to the 220 level. Do not change the contour of the edges. Roundover the outer collar edge and smooth them as good as you can get them. **If there are any gouges or dents and dings, you should fill those with Plastic Wood, use this brand, it lasts as the other stuff is more likely to fail.** Then after you have the surface as smooth as you like, clean the dust off completely and tape the mounting holes, from the exterior. Lacquer the interior of the shell with 1-3 coats. Make sure you get the edges lacquered as well. Once all the hardware is cleaned and the springs are wrapped with cotton, put it all back together and tune it up. You're done! The tone will be thunderous! And you may even want to add it to your gigging kit for a new sound.

I agree very much with the sanding part - but wholeheartedly disagree with the laquering part!

I have spend hours getting rid of other peoples folly of laquering nice drums on the inside - I think it makes the drums sound too hard and not at all woody.

The point is - some like it and some don´t. Make sure you like it before you laquer them. Or maybe the opposite - make sure you feel your drums lack attack and presence before you do. That´s what laquer can do. If you like them warm and soft, don´t.

Regards

Jon

Posted on 14 years ago
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Hey Atomic, cheap is good Excited Let me know, thanks.

Jon P, the laquer ship has already sailed, but my problem now was putting the vinyl wrap on a sanded wood Tom. Not good. I'm going to try leaving the backing on and doing a contact cement re-wrap it tomorrow. We'll see how that goes. Thanks for all the coments.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From Jon Petersen

I agree very much with the sanding part - but wholeheartedly disagree with the laquering part!I have spend hours getting rid of other peoples folly of laquering nice drums on the inside - I think it makes the drums sound too hard and not at all woody.The point is - some like it and some don´t. Make sure you like it before you laquer them. Or maybe the opposite - make sure you feel your drums lack attack and presence before you do. That´s what laquer can do. If you like them warm and soft, don´t.RegardsJon

Here you would be correct, however I use LACQUER, not POLYURETHANE. Poly is plastic and indeed make them sound "hard". I have not had any issues in changing the tones in an undesirable direction. Quite the opposite, when you close the grain and add one thin coat of a quality nitro-cellulose type lacquer, I find it does nothing more than stiffen the shell and preserve it, not really changing the tone. Most of these old thin shells lack presence and projection yet have an abundance of resonance. The use of lacquer in a conservative manner does help the projection and attack.

I understand the reluctance of many people to use this technique as it is irreversible, but I have nothing but good luck when using it in a conservative manner. If you use this to make sonic differences, and you are not getting the desired results from thinner coats, all you have to do is add another coat or two. It is a pain because you have to build and re-build your drums multiple times, but the results are really worth it for that one of a kind kit that you just want to be able to play live and look uber-coolio because of the sweet wraps.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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He didn't say Poly, Jonni.... he said Lacquer..................:)

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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Help2

I know this thread is pretty old

But the need for one or even two of the above mentioned 7 hole sixteen inch slingerland copy stick saver floor tom hoops is new

Needed to complete a 60's Pearl badged tiger eye pearl floor tom

Which will be added to my three Zim Gar root beer strata shells

until such time as an actual "Zim Gar" rbs floor tom can be found.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From steviewest

BumpI'm bumping this because I'm still in need of a 7 hole 16" hoop. I'll probably be finishing up the drums in the next 2 weeks or so and this is the only piece missing. Thanks for looking.

LoLoLoLo

OK, 3 years later and I'm still working on this project...man, getting old sucks...just saying.

Posted on 11 years ago
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