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Help Dating an old A

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I picked this 22" thin ride up with a mid 60s Gretsch kit. It looks older to me. 2360grams, "THIN" ink stamp, UFO profile, the edge wobbles like a mother, stamp is 1 3/8" tall by 1 1/8" wide. Looks like quite a bit of hand hammering. There are "ridges" if you run your finger from the bell to the edge. I think you can literally see what I mean in the first picture. I tried to get a close up of the hammering too in picture #4.

Is it early 60s or late 50s maybe? Earlier? There is also a faint outline of a black rectangle that I think I've seen on some older As.

By the way, it sounds amazing!

I would like some help determining age and value if you don't mind.

Thanks

Posted on 13 years ago
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From bonzoquinn

I picked this 22" thin ride up with a mid 60s Gretsch kit. It looks older to me. 2360grams, "THIN" ink stamp, UFO profile, the edge wobbles like a mother, stamp is 1 3/8" tall by 1 1/8" wide. Looks like quite a bit of hand hammering. There are "ridges" if you run your finger from the bell to the edge. I think you can literally see what I mean in the first picture. I tried to get a close up of the hammering too in picture #4.Is it early 60s or late 50s maybe? Earlier? There is also a faint outline of a black rectangle that I think I've seen on some older As. By the way, it sounds amazing!I would like some help determining age and value if you don't mind.Thanks

It looks like an '60s stamp. Please measure again. It should be closer to 1 3/16" tall than 1 3/8".

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 13 years ago
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Oh, that's a nice one for sure. It looks like late 50's lathing with a 60's stamp?

Gary.

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12,13,16,20, 14x5 snare
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Posted on 13 years ago
#3
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By the way, how big is the hole. If the hole is small, that's indicitive of an earlier cymbal intended for the approx. 6mm or so stands of the day. If the hole is larger, unforunately that doesn't tell us anything. Sometimes older cymbals have their holes enlarged so they'll fit better on modern 8mm cymbal stands.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 13 years ago
#4
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The hole is normal. I think the consensus is late 50s production with a 60s stamp put on it. Apparently they held on to some stock and didn't stamp it until it went out the door in the 60s.

At 2360 grams this is nice.

Posted on 13 years ago
#5
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I have a 24 that has late 50's type lathing on it as well along with this same stamp. Must be very early 60's stamp. I have other 20's with this stamp that has very different/typical 60's style lathing to it.

Enjoy the cymbal!

Gary.

Sonor teardrops:
12,13,16,20, 14x5 snare
Fibes crystallite-14x5.5 snare
Posted on 13 years ago
#6
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That's definitely early 1960's. That cymbal shows several later 1950's characteristics that carried on into the early years after they changed the trademark.

You might as well forget about asking for this type of information at Cymbalholic. They don't date cymbals there. They try, but its made by decision based on committee fiat. So ultimately in most cases, as in yours, this doesn't leave you with a defintitive answer.

Posted on 13 years ago
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