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60s Zildjians

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I recently purchased a 1965 Ludwig Downbeat kit which I'll be picking up in about a week. Along with the kit, I'll be getting 5 Zildjian cymbals from the late 50s - early 60s plus a pair of vintage Zildjian hi-hats.

From what I've seen, it doesn't appear that any of the cymbals have EVER been cleaned or polished. I realize that some drummers don't choose to clean their cymbals but I don't happen to be among them. Obviously, it's a personal choice. Although these particular cymbals are extremely sound functionally, they honestly look like hell from a cosmetic sense. Just wondering what product or products might be best when attacking all the gunk and grime on these?

THANKS in advance for your help!Bowing

Posted on 14 years ago
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Good for you on snagging another wonderful kit. I love some of your stuff. Very cool.

The cymbals can be cleaned with a good soap and water treatment in the tub or deep sink. Put your back into it and they will look pretty good.

Barring that, you could go the rough route. There's Brasso, Neverdull, and several other chemical abrasives. They will make them shine like new, if that's what you're after.

Good luck and post some pics of the kit.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From mcjnic

Good for you on snagging another wonderful kit. I love some of your stuff. Very cool.The cymbals can be cleaned with a good soap and water treatment in the tub or deep sink. Put your back into it and they will look pretty good.Barring that, you could go the rough route. There's Brasso, Neverdull, and several other chemical abrasives. They will make them shine like new, if that's what you're after.Good luck and post some pics of the kit.

mcjnic:

First, thanks for your kind words regarding my kits. I appreciate it!

Secondly, thanks for the advice in regard to the cymbals. Have you personally used "Neverdull"? I've heard it mentioned in several posts but have never tried it myself. I normally use "Groove Juice" but I believe that these particular cymbals would need something much stronger than that.

In regard to the kit, I'll definitely post some pics once I get it up and running, cleaned and polished.

THANKS AGAIN for your help!

Posted on 14 years ago
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Unfortunately, I've done some really stupid things to drums and cymbals through the years. Yes, I've used Neverdull, Brasso, acid bath, wire brushes, soft 0000 wire, sand paper, and goodness knows what else. I've been at this for a lot of years and I was never the most mature or right thinking individual. Soap and water are best. If that's not enough, Brasso would be my next choice. I haven't used it in a lot of years. Soap and water usually do the trick.

Posted on 14 years ago
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I use BARKEEPERS FRIEND. Wet down the cymbal with warm water, sprinkle it on, take a wet soft rag , smear it around all over the cymbal ( keeping it wet, you want it to look like thin gravy) let it soak for 3 or 4 mins and rinse with cold water. Its like "magic" Give it a try

Posted on 14 years ago
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I had some good success with Wright's polish lately.

I've quit using the Groove Juice on cymbals.... it works great on some hardware, but I've found it too strong for cymbals here of late. I guess my tastes are changing.

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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Yep, Barkeeper Friend, absolutely. positively.

I make a paste (consistency of maple syrup) of it, wet down cymbal them sponge the paste onto it. Nice thing about Barkeeper's is that you can just let it sit on the cymbal for a few minutes to remove the grunge and top layer of tarnish. Or, you can apply a little elbow grease to remove everything, including the "patina" to make the cymbal gleam. So, you have some control over the degree of cleaning.

In my younger, uninformed past I have used Brasso, Noxon, or Never-Dull. Takes ALOT of work, is difficult to remove complety, and seemed to change the tone quite a bit.

I once used Tarn-X years ago, and was horrified that yes, it did remove all the tarnish, but turned my cymbals orange! Thankfully it was a temporary thing, as hitting them with metal polish returned their normal color.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Twinkle is a good product.It's for pots and pans.I've used it on cymbals and even marine gear.The crud melts right off.Basically you want a slightly abrasive paste and gentle scrubing and lots of H2o.

Posted on 14 years ago
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I agree with Barkeeper's Friend as well. There's a liquid version as well which I think would be more convenient but I haven't found it locally.

Scott

Posted on 14 years ago
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From HerronScott

I agree with Barkeeper's Friend as well. There's a liquid version as well which I think would be more convenient but I haven't found it locally.Scott

Agree Clapping Happy2

Bar Keepers Friend Liquid.

1. Rinse with plain water.

2. Apply a generous amount on a clean rag.

3. Wipe cymbal and make sure you follow the tonal grooves.

4. Clean in a circular motion around the cymbal following the grooves.

5. Rinse and repeat as many time as it takes.

6. When satisfied wash the cymbal with common dish soup to remove any residual Bar Keepers Friend.

7. Immediately dry the cymbal completely with a clean towel.

8. Wax with high quality polish.

Important

1. Have plenty of clean water available... like from a garden hose.

2. DO NOT GO ACROSS THE LATHING! IT WILL MARK THE FACTORY FINISH.

3. Avoid the silk screen - it will remove the labels.

4. Remove any residual Bar Keepers with dish soap.

5. Dry completely and wax.

PHOTO BEFORE & AFTER

BTW Moniker has nothing to do with my drumming!
Posted on 14 years ago
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