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My Snare Wires Are Sensative?

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Hey.

My snare is a PDP Platinum series snare. Every time I hit a drum (any tom or the bass) I can hear the wires on the bottom of the snare "rattle". It's really annoying because its almost just as loud (sometimes louder) than the actually drums! I was just wondering if this is normal? Or if there is anyway to reduce the sound?

I think the res head on the snare is the normal head it came with by the way.

Thanks!

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Posted on 14 years ago
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warwormx, no! take a pic of the snare wires and post it will you, if setup properly, a very slight buzz, but not annoying!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

warwormx, no! take a pic of the snare wires and post it will you, if setup properly, a very slight buzz, but not annoying!

First: Snare Switch Off

Second: Snare Switch On

Third: Other Side From Snare Switch

Fourth: Snare Wire (snare on)

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You can call me Carter!
1980's Gretsch Red Rosewood
2000's Gretsch Catalina Birch
Zildjian/Paiste - Remo - Pro Mark/Vic Firth

Posted on 14 years ago
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Well, it could be the snare wires, or it could be your snare heads. Remember that your snare sound is initiated by vibration of the head against the wires, not the other way around.

Your snare heads, like pretty much every other solid object, have a resonant frequency as well as partials or overtones. When something else sounds at those frequencies, it'll cause the heads to resonate, causing buzz. Re-tuning your snare side head to a slightly different tension will change its resonant frequency, possibly to one that's less aligned with the sound from your other other drums, and might reduce snare buzz.

The pitch relationship between the top and bottom heads on your snare can be a contributing factor, too. If they're tuned to the same pitch, you'll have a very resonant drum. If they're tuned to a consonant interval (like a major third, for example), you'll still have a pretty resonant drum, which can promote bottom head vibration, and in turn, snare buzz. Re-tuning your bottom or top snare head will alter the pitch relationship between the heads and can alter the amount of buzz you experience.

Have you checked to make sure your bottom head's in balance? Tap about 2" in from each of the lugs and make sure the pitch at each lug is even. An out-of-tune head might be a source of extra snare buzz.

Have you checked your snare wires to make sure that you don't have any strands that are bent or under less tension than the rest? Stray snare wires can cause some major headaches. The fix in this case is to replace your snare wires.

If you replace your wires, consider picking up a set with fewer wires if you want to reduce buzz. I've got one drum that buzzed like crazy with 20-strand wires on it. Replacing those with a 16-strand set completely fixed my problem with sympathetic buzz and the drum still sounds fantastic. In fact, I like the 16's better. I hear a little less snap from the snare wires, but more tone from the shell.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From warwormx

First: Snare Switch OffSecond: Snare Switch OnThird: Other Side From Snare SwitchFourth: Snare Wire (snare on)

here's what I was asking for the snare wires need to be centered and straight, I also don't tune like most drummers. I've taught forum member kevins my trick, but you would need to see it done!

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

here's what I was asking for the snare wires need to be centered and straight, I also don't tune like most drummers. I've taught forum member kevins my trick, but you would need to see it done!

Mark, make a video of your technique. I use Bob Gatzen's video technique and if my snare beds are properly cut and sanded, and the edges are good and the rest of my variables are right, I get very little to no buzz. He also has a complete video tutorial of how to tune each drum on his channel.

Check this out, young man!

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Posted on 14 years ago
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John, First off I use a tension watch, so I have perfect even tension on all my tension rods, but that's not the secret some of it but not the secret, everyone forget's that the snare mechanism used to be called a tone control, and that's what it really is, and then what is the most distinguishing factor to a snare drum?, the snare wires!! I don't use plastic tabs they limit your range of tuning, I use string only, the snare wires must and I mean must be centered evenly on the bottom head, and Must lay flat on the bottom head,the snare wires once all this is done, I pretension the snare wires with the string, and then pluck the snare wires to all sound the same, just as if it was a guitar string to the same tone, so that can mean lots of finite adjustments to get it right, Ask kevins, once you see it done, and do it yourself you'll get it, and they are adjusted and stay adjusted until you change the wires! hope this helps, I'm not saying this is the only way, But it's worked for me for 30+ years.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Pretty much the same method i use on my supra's string only... and i agree they must be centered...

Posted on 14 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

everyone forget's that the snare mechanism used to be called a tone control

I didn't forget that. I'd never heard it before. Every reference I've ever seen to a "tone control" mechanism referred to a muffler of some sort.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From SkyDog75

I didn't forget that. I'd never heard it before. Every reference I've ever seen to a "tone control" mechanism referred to a muffler of some sort.

Both ludwig and leedy both called them tone controls, and the muffler was called just that a muffler!!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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