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Need help identifying this Star Snare drum

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That is a nice snare you have there and also a "bonus" to have it in great condition. Jonni and the fellows will definitely coach you through the resto work (however little may be needed) and the tuning. Be careful, MIJ drums are addicting once you experience the sound quality they can produce!!

Cheers

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1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
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1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks grant! And yeah, i dont know how much work i will even need to put into it, it already sounds good to me, maybe the aged wood makes it sound better, who knows! i did notice one thing, inside there is a stamp, its an "A" with a circle around it, mean anything?

Posted on 14 years ago
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Didn't know anyone else had a BB muffler (even if they did get sued). If you're going to use it you should reverse the stop clip or flip the muffler. It's currently mounted backwards. When you 'turn it off' the flat portion should stop on the stop clip. The bent portion should be facing up toward the head. At some point someone took this off and then re-mounted it incorrectly. I love BB mufflers. Even had one installed on a custom snare I had built. COOL DRUM!!Cool1

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks for the heads up man, i will figure that out in a little bit, im a little overjoyed with it right now, im just kind of staring at it, amazed. Haha. Sadly the rest of my drum set isnt with me right now, i am eager to play the snare with a full kit to really see how it sounds. Woops, forgot about the video, ilk take one right now!

Posted on 14 years ago
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From Starsnare

Thanks for the heads up man, i will figure that out in a little bit, im a little overjoyed with it right now, im just kind of staring at it, amazed. Haha. Sadly the rest of my drum set isnt with me right now, i am eager to play the snare with a full kit to really see how it sounds. Woops, forgot about the video, ilk take one right now!

Here's the video, i really love the way this snare sounds, i currently use a Tama 13" piccolo (maple), i play that one 3rd in the video, I play the "Star" snare first (the lighting is bad and you cant really see her shine, but man is it pretty) There's something about the way it sounds, there is no ringing afterwards whatsoever, i don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but i personally love it, i don't like when i hear ringing after i hit a snare, as the other 2 in this video do, especially the snare i play 2nd, the cheap Sound Percussion one.

Let me know which snare you like the best, the Star or the Tama Piccolo, i really want to use the Star because it matches my drum set, so i'm hoping it wins the vote.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgpvBY4qm6Y[/ame]

Posted on 14 years ago
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I'm not quite sure what the A with a circle around it means. Just a wild guess - Asian???

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 14 years ago
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There would have been a production significance to the "A", possibly a shift, or maybe a distribution signifier, for who get's the finished drum, or maybe for what finish it got at the factory.

As for the "vote", I like the Star. I think you can get more out of it however. I would like to see the snare side and the snare beds. If they are sufficient, then a mnior snading of the edges will make all the difference. As a matter of fact, you should sand them regardless. Take some 220 grit sandpaper and go all the way around, lightly sanding to smooth up the rough edges and then take a single coat of lacquer to them and let it cure considerably. Now, if you want to completely change the sound of the POS, let's see the edges on it. This is the SPs weak point. Sanding them to a very tight 45, by hand, is a key, and it will become a much better sounding snare drum. The piccolo is a great side snare and you should keep it and set it up that way.

If you like, and are not competent or confident in how to do the re-contour work, I can fix that SP and make it much more playable.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I liked the way the Star sounded. If you get an old Star cheap enough, you can put decent heads (or retire a head off a hi-end snare a little early so you don't buy a new one for it) & wires on it and make it sound pretty good.

Cheers, Dave

Posted on 14 years ago
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I guess maybe everybody has a preference. I like a little ring to my snare. Some people have 20 different snares they go to every now and then. Maybe you can put the Star snare as your main, and the piccolo as an aux. snare. Just my :2Cents: I do like the star snare though.Yes Sir

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From jonnistix

Well sir, Welcome to the wonderful world of MIJ drums. The question is one of opinion. Most people here will tell you the drum is junk, I missed that one or it would have been a bloody battle betwixt us! I like the wood. This looks like a 3 ply shell and would be pre-67 as Star went to 6 ply shells in mid-67. When you get the drum, pull the head and let's see the interior. If it has re-rings, it is a 3 ply. This snare can sound really good, but it takes work. You will have to work the edges a little to get the heads to seat better, and it may take some snare bed work as well. When you get it in, let me know and we can get together and I will walk you through the work and tuning lesson. It takes a little getting used to to get them tuned, but then they have a very special pop and crack, and many people will ask you what it is and how you got it to sound so great!Oohh, it has a B/B bat muffler, nice one! That is an earlier one.

Bingo! I just received a beautiful Star BB muffler in the mail today! It is pristine. What is even nicer, is that it cost $7.50. Once in awhile...

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 11 years ago
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