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something i've been wondering..

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let me preface this by saying I AM NOT A BEATLES FAN. not that i don't respect them/what they did..but its just never been my forte..and i personally don't think Ringo's that great of a drummer anyway..that being said.

i've been wondering this for a long time and i'd like to hear what you guys think.

it all started when i saw a snare sell on ebay for $2100.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120588504144&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1154

now to my knowledge..the same exact snare in different finish could have been sold for a max of around $500. and that leads me to believe that the ONLY reason this one sold for what it did (apart from being in great shape) is because it was the exact same snare that Ringo Starr used.

if in fact that is the case..what the !@#$ is wrong with you Beatles fans?

i mean the same can be said for John Bonham's rig..not nearly as much of course. but the extremely sought after 6.5x14 Ludwig 402 Supraphonic sells for around $500+ i mean don't get me wrong i'm a huge Zepplin/Bonham fan..but $500? i'm not so sure.

i guess my real question is..are these drums worth this much because of what they actually are? or because of who played them?

the people that pay these dare i say, ridiculous prices make me laugh.

what do you think?

-never meaning to offend..i will just never understand Beatles fans ;)

nashu.bandcamp.com
Posted on 14 years ago
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I am personally on a quest for the perfect BLT sandwich.

When I find it, I will happily pay $50.00 for it.

This makes as much sense to me as the Beatles fan paying $2100 for that snare did to him. And makes absolutely no sense to others.

:D

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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Let me preface this by saying that I am a HUGE Beatles and Ringo fan (Pete Best too while we're at it!) as well as a huge Led Zeppelin/John Bonham fan......but I would never.....NEVER!.....pay those rediculous prices to own the same model and finish drums they did. I'd rather buy a NEW Ludwig "replica" (Liverpool 4/Zep set kit thank you) kit that comes with a warranty AND the EXACT SAME SOUND QUALITIES with today's modern hardware than blow rediculous amounts of cash on a vintage kit that is too valuable to actually take out and gig with!

With that said, the couple of vintage kits that I do have, while valuable (not as much as what people pay for a "Ringo" or "Bonzo" kit though) I still do use on gigs on occasion. I watch them like a hawk and I'm the only one that plays them, but still.....

Now as far as $50 for that perfect BLT sandwich......I could see that....as long as it was the ULTIMATE best tasting BLT ever! :D

Posted on 14 years ago
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Now as far as $50 for that perfect BLT sandwich......I could see that....as long as it was the ULTIMATE best tasting BLT ever!

Yeah baby !!........... That's the good stuff !!

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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From kevins

Yeah baby !!........... That's the good stuff !!

Now if someone can point me to the ultimate steak and cheese sub sandwich.....:D

C'mon guys from Philly.....which REALY is better? Pat's or Gino's? :p

Posted on 14 years ago
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i'm vegetarian..so i can't comment on the sandwiches..

but kevins Laughing H

man you made me laugh..

nashu.bandcamp.com
Posted on 14 years ago
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I'm hungry

50's Gretsch RB 13/16/20 w/Matching Snare Midnight Blue Pearl
60's Gretsch Jasper RB Progressive Jazz Silver Sparkle
Rogers Dayton Top Hat Silver Glass Glitter w/Powertone
'65 Ludwig Super Classic 12/13/16/16/22 Blue Sparkle with Supraphonic 400 Rescue Kit
Slingerland Pre-Badge/Pre-Vent Hole 12/14/18 Blue Agate Pearl w/Matching Snare
No-name MIJ 12/16/20 Red Sparkle Rescue Kit
Tama Starclassic Birch 6-piece Red Aztec Fade w/Matching Snare
Posted on 14 years ago
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I'm not from Philadelphia, but I like Jim's.

9x Slingerland New Rock 50N 12-13-16-22 with 170 (Super S-O-M) holder
• 1979 Oak
• 1978 Blakrome + 6.5x14 TDR SD
• 1977 Black Diamond Pearl + 5x14 SD (gold badge, Rapid strainer)
• 1976 Black Cordova
• 1975 Silver Sparkle + 5x14 SD (Rapid strainer)
• 1974 Chrome + 5x14 COB TDR and 6.5x14 COW Zoomatic SDs
• 1973 Purple Sparkle
• 1973 Phantom (clear)
• 1971 Walnut (gold badges) + 5x14 TDR SD
1x Rogers Powertone Londoner V 12-13-16-22
• 1972 Butcher Block + 1979 big R Dynasonic SD
Posted on 14 years ago
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Well, buddy. I like the Beatle's later stuff, and I am a Bonham fan.

I have been researching this a bit, actually. So I have noticed, in my studies, that Bonzo's name is wayyyy overused when talking about Ludwig drums, as if he were the only artist to ever use them. "What kind of heads does he use?" "What size sticks does Dave Grohl use?"

Let me go over a theory of mine: people think that if they get all the exact same gear in the same sizes and stuff, then they will sound like their idols. For Zep fans, it's Bonham, for Beatles fans, it's Ringo. These are 2 of the biggest bands that have ever been, so maybe we just notice it more because the bands are so prevalent. Jack White fans always want a red Montgomery Ward's Airline, a Whammy pedal, and a Big Muff. For Nirvana fans, they want a black Tama Artstar kit in huge sizes.

It is all in the hands, fingers, and brain. You could have Jimmy Page play a Johnson guitar through and Ibanez 10 watt practice amp and you could still tell it's him. Same with Billy Gibbons...Jack White.

People think that if they get a Ludwig Vistalite in 26, 14, 16, 18 with a 6.5 Supra then they will sound like Bonzo. He was a damn good drummer, so they will play top dollar for this stuff.

All I can say is for people to practice...have your own signature sound, and then maybe one day, morons will pay top dollar for your style of drums.

(Sorry for all the guitar references, but I also play guitar and collect vintage guitars)

Custom refin 80's era Ludwig rockers
12,13,16,18,22

Black rewrap 60's and 70's Ludwig classic mutt kit 12,16,22

Late 70's Ludwig Classic Maple
15,18,26

Ludwig Coliseum,Acrolite,and some weird supro/acro hybrid
Posted on 14 years ago
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I don't know why these snare drum's bring so much money on ebay[2,100.00] it's not a Ringo used snare just the color of it..So i'am thinking what would the snare i have sell for on ebay Ludwig 1965 B.O.P sign by Ringo,I know he did sign it i was standing right next to him when he did..Maybe 21,000.00 or more...Mikey

Posted on 14 years ago
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