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How repair damages in lacquer , walnut Camco?

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Just get my a LA Camco ( in my opinion, one of the best looking finishis) Walnut lacquer finnish.

Unfortantly, there is a several prety deep , uggly scraches, damages and marks from toms in basdrumshells.

Same with basdrum hoop.

Any idea what to do with it?

Of course, I can use it as it is. Ok.

But I would like to have them be nice as once.

How to do? To get some laquer (wanish?) to put only in to the scratches? Or polish down all old lacquer, and redo all lacquer jobb?

Idea?

Anyone did something like that before? Expireince?

[IMG]http://groovesuperfly.webs.com/Camco%20i%20Dana%20Port%204.jpg[/IMG]

As you can see , is basdrum hoop too in very bad condition.

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Slingerland-GoldSatinFlame-1972/73
Camco LA-Ebony Stain-73/78?
Premier "Pre" Elite-Turquis Oyster-1969
Trixon Luxus-Red Ripple-1961
Sneres - Ludwig, Slingerland, GeoWay and so on...
Cymbals- Most K-Zildjian & Paiste 2002
(and some Pearl, Tama and so long, long time ago...)

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Contact a local furniture refinisher. He will be the best suited for the job. Wait until you know exactly what lacquer to use, then go to him and ask.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
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Posted on 14 years ago
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From jonnistix

Contact a local furniture refinisher. He will be the best suited for the job. Wait until you know exactly what lacquer to use, then go to him and ask.

I have heard / read somewhere something about "celuosa" laquer?

Thas why to wait and find it out first?

Furniture refinisher....? In IKEA conutry Sweden...? No we just buye cheap s***t furinture, and throw it away after 3 years

Not so many of them. But I will try to find one. Thats very-very good idea.

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Antonio Drums-Elmwood- True Solid Shell-Hollow Log
Ludwig-Psychedelic Red-69
Slingerland-GoldSatinFlame-1972/73
Camco LA-Ebony Stain-73/78?
Premier "Pre" Elite-Turquis Oyster-1969
Trixon Luxus-Red Ripple-1961
Sneres - Ludwig, Slingerland, GeoWay and so on...
Cymbals- Most K-Zildjian & Paiste 2002
(and some Pearl, Tama and so long, long time ago...)

http://groovesuperfly.webs.com/
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Posted on 14 years ago
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...hahahaha...I forgot about IKEA!!! Good comeback! Yes, these could be a nitro-cellulous, so I would to find out exactly what it is. Look in the big city for antique dealers, they will have this knowledge. Remeber, antique dealers can sometimes be our friends, and even they have a rare snare drum sitting on a shelf collecting dust, and do not know what it is because it was in a box at an estate sale. Many people have found some rare and valuable drums at these shops. Make a friend of these dealers, when they go to estate sales and buy drums, or see them, they can call you to just get them sold for reasonable money (to them) and you get a new snare for 20-30, could be worth 1000...maybe at least you get a good sounding drum cheap, and maybe find a supraphonic for E10...never know what they find.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 14 years ago
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Nitrocelulose Lacquer is not used as much anymore because of the toxic nature of it. There's a few companies who still use it... Gibson Guitar being one of them. Someone who specializes in guitar restoration (Like the guy in Ohio I know) would be perfect for the job. Gibson and Martin are the 2 companies that use Nitro... so someone specializing in either of those will be of help.

Posted on 14 years ago
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You can buy Nitrocellulose lacquer at Industrial Plastics here in Canada. I think they're in the USA too.

I painted my Gretsch bd hoops with it - I bought spray (rattle) cans.

Nitrocellulose lacquer is a lot easy to work with regarding repairs (it comes off pretty easy) compared to Polyester lacquer.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Even a votech school or a wood shop teacher could be of assistance here. Make sure the wood shop teacher is missing at least one finger though, or he isn't worth a damn!!

Not to be the arrogant American here but in case you dont know what votech is, that is a school that teaches trades for skilled labor instead of the regular high school subjects. If you have these over there, they should have a carpentry class and some of those people would be more than qualified to refinish your drums. I would remove everything and take in the bare, wood shell though. And remind them that the bearing edges are a fragile area.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I am not so sure, if teatcher is missing several fingers, how to make him be cearfully with bearing edges?

And yes, there is a some kind of school like this here too, for studens who did not make it so well in ordeinary shool, and thet are gooing some "easyer" courses, often plummer, to work with wood/furniture, painter and so on...

What you people thing about try use some paint/lacquer remover, and after polish / sand shells, and leave to someone to paint over with new lacquer?

I would of course remove everything, perhaps ecxept the badge , and cover it instead? And cover carfully even bearing edges?

And , I understaind that Camco used maple shells?

But walnut finnsih, is it outher layer of walnut on shells ( or some other dark wood ) or is it just some kind of ferinsa (lacquer with dark pigment into it, you maybe says "warnish" or something like that???)) witch make it look dark like walnut?

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Antonio Drums-Elmwood- True Solid Shell-Hollow Log
Ludwig-Psychedelic Red-69
Slingerland-GoldSatinFlame-1972/73
Camco LA-Ebony Stain-73/78?
Premier "Pre" Elite-Turquis Oyster-1969
Trixon Luxus-Red Ripple-1961
Sneres - Ludwig, Slingerland, GeoWay and so on...
Cymbals- Most K-Zildjian & Paiste 2002
(and some Pearl, Tama and so long, long time ago...)

http://groovesuperfly.webs.com/
_______________________________________________
Posted on 14 years ago
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The word for the pigment you seek is "Stain" it is a pigment colorant added to certian varnishes and then usually applied by hand and the removed after a period of time. The longer it remains, the more soaks in the wood for a darker staining of the wood.

As for whether or not the outer ply is actually maple or walnut, I cannot say for sure, but may be. More than likely though would be just a stain on the maple.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 14 years ago
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From jonnistix

The word for the pigment you seek is "Stain" it is a pigment colorant added to certian varnishes and then usually applied by hand and the removed after a period of time. The longer it remains, the more soaks in the wood for a darker staining of the wood. As for whether or not the outer ply is actually maple or walnut, I cannot say for sure, but may be. More than likely though would be just a stain on the maple.

Ok, then I understain ( a little bit ) more.

I see some people call it Camco Walnut Stain. And I did not understaind what "stain" is meening.

But did not varnishes allreday have a pigment?

You mead that you first have to add this Stain, and afther a while, remove ti , when the wood are getting dark, and afther varnish/lacquer over the wood?

I find s set on ebay, camco with (allmost???) same finnish.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=140421938318&Category=38097&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2

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_______________________________________________
Antonio Drums-Elmwood- True Solid Shell-Hollow Log
Ludwig-Psychedelic Red-69
Slingerland-GoldSatinFlame-1972/73
Camco LA-Ebony Stain-73/78?
Premier "Pre" Elite-Turquis Oyster-1969
Trixon Luxus-Red Ripple-1961
Sneres - Ludwig, Slingerland, GeoWay and so on...
Cymbals- Most K-Zildjian & Paiste 2002
(and some Pearl, Tama and so long, long time ago...)

http://groovesuperfly.webs.com/
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Posted on 14 years ago
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