I hesitate to call the seller stupid, he's been at it for a while, it appears. If I were sending that set it would go in 2 boxes, the ft in the bass drum and the rack tom in another box. If it were going USPS, then the removal of lugs for economical box size makes more sense as long as the weight stays under the limits for the service used to ship them.

I don't really mean him individually. It's just that these old kits vcame as kits, and in my warped little mind, it should remain thus. I really can't stand to see people parting out vintage gear that comes this way.

That went for $725. Greed running rampant?

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/msg/1810104165.html

I do not wish to belabor the point here. But, that's not a shock. Those nice Yamaha kits have been selling for about that for several years now. I'm not sure what you expected to see. Even the Rogers/Yamaha kits have gone for just under that (depending on finish). Heck, there's a Yamaha 70's Red Pearl kit up on Steve's site going for 1200. These are good kits, irregardless of who is seen playing them.

I'm sorry, but your intent here is rather obvious. If you believe the impact of Questlove is going to drive the prices higher and that these will become highly collectable, then invest.

Please do not infer a massive shift in the market by looking at a couple of completed sales. I say again, monitor the entire market over an extended period of time to determine trends.

If the market shifted on the basis of one auction, then logic would dictate that all jazzfests would be priced at $3000.00 these days. That's simply not the case.

There will always be wide gaps between individual sales numbers. Currently, there is a Yamaha kit with a sweet finish in very good condition going for a couple of bills. This is being offered by an online retailer. There is also a sweet Yamaha going for almost three times that from another online retailer. Which should I believe is more precise? Which reflects current market trends?

They both do. That is the reality of vintage drums. Some go cheap. Some go for a bit more. Search for trends to understand it. Educate and learn what to watch for and when to pull the trigger. That's for another thread, though.

1) Only one was a complete sale, the other was an asking price, as was the Steve's price. One definitely needs to make the distinction, because there are several sellers out there, including Steve's who commonly sit on stuff that would sell on a very rare occasion at the price they're offering it at, and who will never, ever actually sell to someone who is very price-conscious.

2)I don't need advice on investing.

3)My intent is not what you say it is, so it isn't as obvious as you say it is. Your intent is obvious as well, to downplay vintage Japanese-made drums. Feel free to continue along that track as I'll gladly continue along mine, but I would (and may indeed be) stupid to start this topic if I felt it was obvious that it would cause any upward trends, because I was actually trying to buy some of these from another forum member when I knowingly started the topic, and it has resulted in his desire to keep the drums until he either gets a better price or changes his mind.

4)My showing these 2 examples was simply due to their obvious relevance to the topic.

Whatever you think. Have a flowers2 day.

you like this drummer qweslove or who ever and think that guy plays yama drums so every body wants one and it will be the next collecters list.

i just read this thread again. mcjnic never said nothing bad against yama drums or anything.

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When Questlove steps off a plane and 15,000 screaming fans try to trample each other to get a better look, and the Roots have gone biz million triple dilithium crystal gold on their 12th album/cd/shaved diamond wafer or whatever they will be offering up music on by that time..... then he might have a dribble of an influence on the next brand of collectible drums.

If he must be introduced as (Jimmy Fallon show drummer for the Roots), then he's not in the same ballpark regarding influence as Ringo and John Bonham.

Questlove is a talented individual, but not nearly famous enough to have an individual effect on the yet to be seen trend in collectible drums. He and a body of other drummers might, but that doesn't seem to be the case as of yet either.

So......

"Questlove's (Jimmy Fallon show drummer for the Roots) on the cover of Modern Drummer magazine June 2010 issue. Inside it says he plays vintage oyster pearl Yamaha early 70s drums. 20/14/12 with some accessories. He's getting a great tone from them, and he's one of the top Hiphop drummers right now.

[COLOR="Red"]What do you think? Are these destined to be the next highly collectible drums?[/COLOR]"

Nah, not because of him.............

That's what was asked, and that's what I think.

I see his influence as no more than bringing more attention to the old Yammies, however his influence on young rock-n-rollers will not mean anything as to what they play. That said, as long as he brings that attention to those drums, there will be some impact to the relatively small amount of then available when compared to virtually all other drums of this period. Yamaha did not flood the market as other Japanese drums because they were really not much less expensive than a comparable American or European kit due to the import levies.

His presence is already having some, although limited, impact on this market, hence the Indie C/L listing in the prior post. What should be a 600-750 kit, this seller is banking on Q to garner him a tidy profit. So, will he have a lasting effect...it is possible, because once the attention is brought on, and the young guns learn that they sound amazing, they will start to put upward pressure on the sales of them. Do I think Q is going to be responsible for this, yes, by default, not because he so special. Only because he is current, and is bringing attention to the vintage world of MIJ drums, rather than just another DW geek. He is playing something different not just another set of DW, or Pearl, because they are the 2 top endorsers at this time in history.

What about Max Weinberg (spelling?) He is a famous drummer from a late night show, and also for one of the most popular concert tickets out there, for a lot of years.

Never seen a Weinberg kit mentioned anywhere for sale............

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