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Is rust patina?

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Patina: "a surface appearance of something grown beautiful especially with age or use." In my opinion, rust is not patina, just a sign of neglect. Faded and scratched wrap, nicks in hoops, stains on the heads (?), OK, I'd call these patina, signs of age and use...but rust, no! I have read posts (not usually on this forum) by folks that are hesitant to clean the rust off old drum parts because they don't want to destroy the character of the piece. Again, in my opinion, rust only hides the detail of vintage drum hardware while removing it reveals the original character and does nothing to harm the collectability. I can understand not re-plating, repainting, re-wrapping or to even highly polishing vintage drums to keep them "original", but to me, rust only ruins the appearance of an otherwise beautiful piece. What say you guys?

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 14 years ago
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Rust, along with nicotine and stale, old, sticky beer is to be removed....at once.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Patina...that natural dulling of nonplate steel such as washers etc. it is a natural coloring change in metal parts.

Rust and corosion, as well as oxidation on zinc plated parts is bad.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 14 years ago
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From jonnistix

Rust, along with nicotine and stale, old, sticky beer is to be removed....at once.

Stale beer = Ah......the memories..(40yrs ago)..of playing in a bar in "Pumphandle" Alberta when a cowboy threw beer on me & my drums...........I remember like it was yesterday - LoLoLoLo, man those were the dayz

Sorry - nothin to do with your question but it is a little related "nicotine and stale, old, sticky beer" = the bar scene of long ago for this lad

Posted on 14 years ago
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It's true, rust is like cancer, it never stops eating away at the metal. Patina is still a form of oxidation, but not nearly as damaging.

The only time I haven't removed rust has been on Gene Krupa's bass drum, which I recently wrote about in the main section. I just don't want to disturb the drum...I guess the fact that it's "as Gene left it" is more important to me than taking it all apart and removing the rust/polishing the chrome. However, if I own the drum for long enough, I'll probably do something about it. Chances are it will move on to another collector, who can decide how they wish to deal with the rust and oxidation in a way that makes them comfortable.

Thanks,

Bill

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Posted on 14 years ago
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