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Kick pedal with Vintage Ludwig bass drum?

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Hello,

I recently bought a set of early 1960's Ludwigs for my son. The set came with a Speed King, yet I would like a chain drive pedal for the set.

I have a Pearl P-120P (which I love) and wanted to try it on this set. There are 2 issues. First, this pedal has a plate on the bottom, and seems to lift the back of the bass drum at least 1/2" off the floor. Second, the pedal will not attach straight. It attaches at a slight angle, which is awkward.

Perhaps somebody here has seen this issue, and could recommend a nice chain drive pedal, that would work with the older wooden Ludwig hoops?

Thanks for your time.

Posted on 14 years ago
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I've got a P-120P, too. I haven't had it long and haven't used it much, but it seemed straight the few times I've used it so far. I'll keep a closer eye on it.

I also have an "original" DW 5000 (5000CX to be specific), which seems like it would be right up your alley. Chain drive, no plate, and haven't had any problems clamping it onto anything. Mine feels great, but it's not quite as quiet as the toothless sprocket on the Pearl pedal. Most of the 5000's I see out there are a newer variety, but you can still find the original 5000:

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Drum-Workshop-Original-Single-Pedal/dp/B0002D0Q18[/ame]

There are other similar pedals out there, including the Pearl P120 -- the same pedal you like, but without the plate:

http://www.drumsonsale.com/pearl-powerpro-single-chain-pedal-p-756.html

Posted on 14 years ago
#2
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Not chain drive....

But I must toot a lil trick horn.....

GET A PRO1V..... I love mine (I got a double and a single for my Roland KD-8)

LOVE EM............ LOVE EM

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I use an 80s TAMA small, thin chain, and love it! Light touch, articulate, and it seems to sit right. Now my old Ghost....it does the lift thang...looks like my bass is gonna fall forward.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I've got several DW pedals (all chain) that work fine on my basses.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Before you buy a new pedal, try raising the front of the BD by extending the spurs. This might fix things.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From atomicmorganic

Before you buy a new pedal, try raising the front of the BD by extending the spurs. This might fix things.

Agreed Clapping Happy2

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks for all the replies. The S/N of the bass drum indicates it was made in 1964. It has the sideways folding spurs. They do not retract into the drum. In order to raise the front, I'd have to fold them more in towards the drum. This seems to work to a point, but then it seems to become a stability problem.

The other problem appears to be that the pedal does not sit well between the bottom two T rods. So it looks as if I would need something that would fit in there better, or perhaps swap out the T rods for some long lug bolts.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From ultra60

Thanks for all the replies. The S/N of the bass drum indicates it was made in 1964. It has the sideways folding spurs. They do not retract into the drum. In order to raise the front, I'd have to fold them more in towards the drum. This seems to work to a point, but then it seems to become a stability problem.The other problem appears to be that the pedal does not sit well between the bottom two T rods. So it looks as if I would need something that would fit in there better, or perhaps swap out the T rods for some long lug bolts.

Hmm....You could try a bass drum anchor that mounts on the front hoop to raise the front up a bit, this should help with the stability issues as well. If the "rockplate" interferes with the T-rods, you could substitute regular key-rods for better clearance. Just remember to save the T-rods (and remember where you put them! LOL!)

Posted on 14 years ago
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There are a lot of people that would say stick with the Speed King. Personally I would rather have it than the ones you are mentioning, but fully understand that it's like shoes and you need to be happy.

I've found that I really have to match the bass drum pedal to the bass drum. Some pedals make the beater hit too far off of center and if I adjust the beater it's either too short or long and feels odd. Then there's the issue of how it clamps on the hoop. Sometimes a thick-ish piece of rubber can be put on the hoop and help things.

I like my Ghost better than any other pedal but end up using a so-so 90's Ludwig pedal because the Ghost doesn't fit my Slingerland kick, it scrapes the head.

Posted on 14 years ago
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