Its pretty easy to find it when you are manufacturing the stuff yourself......just like repercussions.....this one's a re-wrap. How can I tell?? How about the fact that the wrap is extremely shiney and the badge grommets aren't aged at all! The only nice "original" pieces in that kit is the incorrect year for the kit hi-hat stand and the unmolested supraphonic. Note that the badge grommet on the supra is aged the same as the badge as opposed to the toms and bass drum.

As far as selling it at this price.....some unsuspecting unknowledgable person probably will pay it just because they have to have THAT "Ringo" kit.

Toilet

Her text: (which is total BS btw)

BEAUTIFUL 1966 LUDWIG DRUM COMPANY 4 PC DOWNBEAT DRUM SET in OYSTER BLACK PEARL THEY DON'T COME ANY NICER THAN THIS!

SALE INCLUDES: 14X20 CLASSIC BASS DRUM, 8X12 CLASSIC RIDE TOM,14X14 CLASSIC FLOOR TOM

5X14 CHROME SUPRAPHONIC-400 SNARE DRUM

1960's HARDWARE: RED THRONE * SPEEDKING, FLAT-BASED HI-HAT STAND w/CURVED BOTTOM STEM

SNARE STAND * BASS DRUM CYMBAL ARM * FLOOR CYMBAL STAND

1960's ZILDJIAN CYMBALS: 14" HI HAT CYMBALS * 20" RIDE CYMBAL * 18" CRASH CYMBAL

1960's ACCESSORIES: PAIR of LUDWIG DRUM STICKS * SET of LUDWIG TELESCOPING BRUSHES

TRADITIONAL 3-PLY SHELLS w/REINFORCEMENT HOOPS

CLEAN WHITE INTERIORS w/DATE STAMP of FEB 1966

ORIGINAL COVERING w/NO FADE ISSUES & NO CRACKS/SPLITS

SUPER CLEAN HARDWARE w/NO PITTING ISSUES

SUPRAPHONIC-400 IS ONE of THE CLEANEST ON THE PLANET

CYMBALS SOUND AWESOME & THERE ARE NO CRACKS

THIS SET IS AWESOME

&

YOU WOULD BE VERY PROUD TO PLAY & OWN!!!

MONEY BACK GUARANTEE; LOVE IT OR SEND IT BACK

BUY IT NOW for $6495; IN STOCK & READY TO SHIP!!!

My :2Cents: Original covering??? HA!! Thats a good one! Take a look at the looooong picture slideshow....the closeups of the badges clearly show that they have been removed and replaced using new grommets! Who does she think she's fooling??!!??? Its a re-wrap with a bunch of mismatched thown together stuff to make a "Ringo" kit.....DOH

Spurs. Check the spurs.

It is possible that those were original. Ludwig did offer the "disappearing" spurs like that starting about that time. Normally you'd see the fold-aways though....

Those were offered in the 50s thru the ... Whatever. The point is you didn't get those spurs on a superclassic or high ender. My guess is this bass came from a standard or the like and was rewrapped. That's my guess.

I don't have the 1966 catalog but I do have the 1967 catalog on page #14 is a Jazzette kit and it has the same spurs! as Pooders kit!! it still will not sell! at leaast she didn't have that stupid music of her's going on this auction!!!!

The Jazzette came standard with those spurs, the downbeat though.......I suppose someone could have ordered them that way, or like Michael suggests, it could have been a Standard series drum re-wrapped to look like a classic series drum....anyway you look at it there is much dishonesty happening with this auction and seller (as per usual)

Yeah, L-D and mcjnic I totally agree with you both, the kit we are seeing is not what it is represented to be!! "pooder" she's a real piece of work for sure!!!: mad:

Just make sure to block her from your auctions! Both the regular pooder and the secret alternate pooder that has the same swimming pool in the background of her auction photos.

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