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Help Gettting a Rogers Newport into Playing Condition

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First, I am new to drumming. I've decided that the best way to learn is to focus on snare rudiments, so I bought a Rogers Newport (after I got a practice pad) to make some noise on. The drum seems to be in good shape, it included skin heads and gut wrapped snares. Unfortunately the batter head is ripped beyond repair and the resonator head has a small tear. My first question is:

1.) Is there any reason why I couldn't put modern heads on this drum? What I mean is that is there some part of the drum that does not lend itself to using modern heads, the hoops, the bearing edge, the snare?

2.) If not, can someone recommend a good combination for a classic field drum sound; if so, recommendations for skin heads (I'm not averse to using new skin heads, I just thought that being a novice, it might just be wasting money at this point;)

3.) How can I recondition the gut snare? Does it need to be? Does it dry out over time, become brittle?

4.) How can I true up the tensioning rods, a few of them are slightly bent.

Sorry if this has already been covered in an earlier post. If it has, please post links. I tried a few searches but couldn't find what I was looking for. Thanks for any insight or suggestions. - mark

Posted on 14 years ago
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1) There's no reason you shouldn't be able to fit modern plastic heads on the drum. In fact, I'd recommend it just for ease of tuning and maintenance. (You can always swap 'em out for calfskin some other time.)

The only possible catch I can think of is that the shell might be a true 14" or 15". Modern shells are slightly undersized, so some current heads might be a tight fit. If you're a student, maybe you can bring the drum to school to see if you can slip a plastic head over the bearing edge. (You just need to see if it clears the shell without being too snug. You don't need to tension it down.) If you're not a student, any music shop with any kind of customer service would be happy to let you "test fit" a head.

2) If you can slip a modern plastic head onto your shell, my first inclination would be to use a Remo Renaissance Emperor on the top and a Remo Renaissance Ambassador snare side on bottom. A Remo Fiberskyn might be a good alternative for a batter (top) head.

If you find that today's plastic heads are a tight fit, you could try American Vintage heads by Aquarian -- medium on top and snare side on bottom. They're slightly oversized to fit vintage drums.

Whatever you do, don't put a modern set of marching drum heads on your old field drum. Marching heads of the past few decades are built to take a whole lot more tension than your old field drum can handle.

3) This one I can't help you with. I'm pretty familiar with wrenching on drums, but haven't had to work with natural catgut snares before. I'm sure you could find some info about catgut conditioning/maintenance online, whether it be for snares, guitar, harp, tennis rackets, lacrosse sticks, or whatever.

Synthetic catgut is the norm on marching drums nowadays. Synthetic tennis racket string, which is also a replacement for catgut, makes a suitable gut replacement for modern marching drums.

4) I've had good luck using a hammer to gently tap bent rods back into shape. I've got a workbench with a super hard top on it. I position the rod so that the head is hanging over the edge, roll the rod so that the bend is an arch pointing up, then tap the top of the arch with the hammer to flatten it out somewhat. Keep rolling the rod and repeating to minimize any bends. Tap only as hard as necessary so that you don't damage the rod, and don't tap on a threaded part of the rod. You won't get the rod perfectly straight, but you can get it pretty close. If all else fails, you can order replacement tension rods. Drummaker.com stocks some pretty long ones -- up to 11 3/4 inches.

Hope this helps!

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks for the suggestions, Skydog. You are absolutely right, plastic heads don't seem to fit on this drum. I'll contact American Vintage and see what they can do. I had another person recommend the Remo Renaissance Emperor, but I'm not sure it'll fit. I'll use a rubber mallet on the rods like you said and shouldn't have a problem straightening them out.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From M_Adis

Thanks for the suggestions, Skydog. You are absolutely right, plastic heads don't seem to fit on this drum. I'll contact American Vintage and see what they can do. I had another person recommend the Remo Renaissance Emperor, but I'm not sure it'll fit. I'll use a rubber mallet on the rods like you said and shouldn't have a problem straightening them out.

"American Vintage" is a series made by Aquarian Drum Heads. You will need to look for Aquarian.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Found a dealer in PA that had 'em in stock. I'll post how they fit. Like I said before, I'm a novice so here's another ignorant question. The way my instructor taught me how to tune new heads included standing on the drum to stretch the heads out. I don't think I should do that on this drum - it seems like the wood hoops won't hold my weight (180). Thoughts?

Posted on 14 years ago
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Don't EVER stand on a drum. I've heard of people doing that to try to seat & stretch Mylar marching snare heads in a hurry, like replacing a blown head minutes before a performance. But unless you're in full panic mode to get a Mylar batter head reefed as tightly as possible (a la 1970s & 1980s DCI snare tuning), I can't think of any valid reason to do it. And even then, there's no valid reason to do it. There's a reason most drum corps keep an extra snare drum on hand. If a guy blows a head, it makes more sense to swap a correctly-tuned drum than to make a half-***ed frantic attempt at seating, stretching, and tuning.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Haha - I read you loud and clear!Sumo Dude

Posted on 14 years ago
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