Hey Grant. This is MY guide on what I PERSONALLY pay for MIJ stencils. First, if that is a 14x14, and it is a 3 ply, snap it up if you can, they are cannons! As for snares, that is a crap shoot....many people tend to think they are worth a ton....but that ain't really the deal. If the snare is 100% correct, then go play it, and if you like it, I usuaaly pass at anything over 40-ish for sstencils...just my own guide. 3 ply snares are really low toned, the thicker ones snap better.

Back to the floor tom. That is something more subjective to me. Those are hard to find, hell, any 14" floor tom is hard to find. If it is 3,4 or 5 plies it is a great drum and the thinner the better it wil resonate. The 6 and up will be more ringy and a handful to tune, unless you are willing to play the old contour game on the edges. Now, as for the $$ on those, do you have red sparkle bass and tom? If not, and you are trying to put together a kit, it can be a minor headache, unless mismatched lugs is no biggie to you. I would say 50-60 if the tom is really nice and exceptionally resonant. If it is a 3 ply, 75 is a great deal, as

those are getting snapped up and put to work on American kits because they are becoming so expensive. On the other hand, if you can walk away with both for 50 bucks, RUN, FORREST, RUN!

I am paying in USD, so keep that in mind.

Thanks Jonnistix for your reply.

I do not own the BD or rack tom to match. Would the FT, if it is 3 or 4 ply, have re-rings? I'm assuming if it is a 5 or 6 ply that it wouldn't.

If I do purchase the snare and the FT, how readily available would the bass and rack tom to purchase in your opinion?

Yes, it should have rings. I picked up a 5 ply snare last night that has rings in it, and I found that odd, as I have never seen one like it. I would think, with patience and some timing, you will find a few singles to complete the kit in short order as red is a popular wrap color. They are everywhere.

Thanks Jonnistix... Could you tell us more about this 5 ply snare you picked up?

I manage to get some pics of the interiors of the snare & FT from the seller.

Thinking of buying. What should I offer for Both in CDN?

Cheers

60? The snare is going to take a lot of work. It is a really thin shell and will have a great low tone, but I usually rework the edges on those to get them rounded over a bit on the outer edge, it makes them easier to tune. When you have the edges rounded over, they slide over easier. I don't like this shell too much, the edges are the worst part of them.

The floor tom is at least 6 ply, and will sound OK, again it is not going to be as resonant as the thinner ones.

What is he asking for them?

Sorry, 5 ply floor tom.

He hasn't listed a price. I was going to offer 75 CDN for both. Is there anything beside the edges you see that's a problem or could be a problem on the snare? Would this be a 3 ply snare?

As for the FT, as I mentioned earlier that there isn't a badge on it, but he says it's a 14" x 14". How do these edges look to you Jonnistix?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers

No other problems. As for the edges, I would sand them down to a very smooth 220 grit then wax it. And round over the edge as well. Just take it over slightly. Go to the TAMA website, look for the Starphonic snare, go into the area for it and look at the edge contour for the wood Starphonic, that is what you should aim for on both drums. The lugs on the floor tom say it was made by Hoshino, and the snare would probably be the same stencil. They are mid 70s, not worth as much as the others.

I would start at 50 and see what he says. He will counter at 75, unless he snaps at the offer. If he counters 75, give him 60-ish.

Thanks... Will keep you posted!!