Two 20"x14 bass drums,a Ludwig and a Slingerland,same head combo,same tuning,etc.One thing separates them and thats the sound.They are different years,but both are maple...I am baffled about the difference
Why does the Slingerland have so much more tone,and low end that could cause your heart to skip a beat??...I always thought bass drums sounded similar....very confusingEye Ball
Two 20"x14 bass drums,a Ludwig and a Slingerland,same head combo,same tuning,etc.One thing separates them and thats the sound.They are different years,but both are maple...I am baffled about the differenceWhy does the Slingerland have so much more tone,and low end that could cause your heart to skip a beat??...I always thought bass drums sounded similar....very confusingEye Ball
Wayne, there are a thousand variables to the question, are both bass drums single or double tension, do they have the exact head combos front and back, same beaters, same pedals, same angle of attack, same muffling, then remove all those questions it gets back to construction of the drum, and lastly there are just some drums that flat out sound better than other,Clapping Happy2Cool1
Excellent response!
I've noticed that my Slingerland kit sounds a great deal better to my ears than my Ludwig kits. I honestly don't know why. I've swapped so many doggone heads on these drums to rule out that variable. I believe it just comes down to our own ears. I love the sounds that emit from the Slingerland shells more than the Ludwig shells. Very different to my ears. I've read many many many writings that refute my findings and conclude that there is no appreciable sonic differences between the two shells. I guess I'm wrong and my ears are lying, but dang...it sure sounds that way to me. I've got some video of the kits with the same heads.
It's an ear thing. Gotta be.
Probably the edges.
All good companies, like Sony or JBL for instance, have a signature sound that is in everything they make, from the cheapest to the most expensive.
Ludwig kicks have always had a cool "slam" sound. My 26" kick is the only Slinger drum I've ever had and to me it has the signature Slinger "lots of bottom" sound.
I make speaker cabinets inspired from a guy named Charles Altmann. They are made like musical instruments and unlike normal construction, they resonate. When I choose the wood, I tap it and listen, and very little of the wood is good enough. The variations from one piece of wood to the next is massive, same with plywood.
Also the difference between if the drum has a frequency in the "Bb - Eb" bag compared to the "B - E " bag is massive as the air has a resonant frequency and is always being tickled by lightening strikes, around 200 per second (no the salvia didn't just kick in!) and is ready to "speak" faster if it's in the "Bb - Eb" bag, if that makes sense.
They use that principle to demolish buildings, like when you hit a "B" and a "C" on the piano together - it will shake a structure to smitherines. Where exactly is that?
"They use that principle to demolish buildings, like when you hit a "B" and a "C" on the piano together - it will shake a structure to smitherines. Where exactly is that?"
Kinda like working with a drunk bass player?
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All good companies, like Sony or JBL for instance, have a signature sound that is in everything they make, from the cheapest to the most expensive.Ludwig kicks have always had a cool "slam" sound. My 26" kick is the only Slinger drum I've ever had and to me it has the signature Slinger "lots of bottom" sound.I make speaker cabinets inspired from a guy named Charles Altmann. They are made like musical instruments and unlike normal construction, they resonate. When I choose the wood, I tap it and listen, and very little of the wood is good enough. The variations from one piece of wood to the next is massive, same with plywood.Also the difference between if the drum has a frequency in the "Bb - Eb" bag compared to the "B - E " bag is massive as the air has a resonant frequency and is always being tickled by lightening strikes, around 200 per second (no the salvia didn't just kick in!) and is ready to "speak" faster if it's in the "Bb - Eb" bag, if that makes sense.They use that principle to demolish buildings, like when you hit a "B" and a "C" on the piano together - it will shake a structure to smitherines. Where exactly is that?
What type of wood are you using? Is it solid or plywood? Very interesting. Fender used to make their cabinets from white pine.
What type of wood are you using? Is it solid or plywood? Very interesting. Fender used to make their cabinets from white pine.
I use pine. Oddly the cheapest wood is amongst the best. Most of the "better" woods sound inferior. Modern plywood doesn't work for me because they used plastic glue. Pine has the downside of being soft and dents easily, so you have to treat the speaker like a guitar. What a concept - the speaker is a musical instrument!
I attached a pic of a JBL I did. Also of utmost importance is the finish... violin makers have been perfecting that for centuries.
I use pine. Oddly the cheapest wood is amongst the best. Most of the "better" woods sound inferior. Modern plywood doesn't work for me because they used plastic glue. Pine has the downside of being soft and dents easily, so you have to treat the speaker like a guitar. What a concept - the speaker is a musical instrument!I attached a pic of a JBL I did. Also of utmost importance is the finish... violin makers have been perfecting that for centuries.
That is one beautiful cabinet...I bet it sounds as good as it looks. Nice job!
Jeff
