Not beat a dead horse...and how much is that 1500.00 bucks per...

or ????

That all depends on what size cymbal we're talking about of course, and also the weight.

And not to beat another dead horse, but some of us still don't know what a trans stamp is since there is no reference available that informs us. Where is the guide that tells us the different stamps on K and A Zildjians, and the dates for those stamps? We would all be VERY grateful if you would summarize and post the results of your research.

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How about a database with the theories of the various stamps? It looks like the "stamp" is applied with a ***elers mill, which would be more of a press that deforms the metal with pressure, not a whack. (censored word is someone who sells rings, bracelets, gems and other fine things... how strange?)

The cymbal is curved, not flat. This would mean rotation of the cymbal through the mill, and could produce different pressures on the letters, especially the edge letters of any design.

I think the cymbals being brittle would preclude any hammered stamp, but maybe someone from inside the factory can describe how the lettering was applied? That would be informative base information.

Once there's some list with dates, people can add or adjust based on shared photos and information. I'm happy to contribute what small amount of information I can gather.

You're right, these were impressed with a roller into the cymbal and not hammered in.

The timeline is on hold until I can dedicate a lot of time in building a web-site where all this information on dating cymbals can be displayed. And there will be a lot of other information on it too. Manufacturing characteristics artisan mark identifiers, and lots of other stuff as well.

If there's anything I can do to help it along, drop me some email. You appear to have been collecting and sorting data for some time and getting it out may draw in more information.

That includes hosting some pages with photos if necessary.