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Leather Washers

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G'day Vintage Drum Folk,

I've been using Canopus Leather Washers on several of my snare drums and am digging the added sustain and feel. Two of my Supras have them and these washers have effectively reduced (but not eliminated) tension rod unravelling at the rim shot area.

I have noticed that Ludwig has replaced them on their Maple Classics (one only) and Brady Drums installs two per rod - as they are intended, one on each side of the steel washer.

I can't get in touch with Ludwig about pricing for their leather washers, and Canopus' washers are US$20 per 40 odd. Does anyone know of other brands or suppliers? (I have just emailed Brady).

I'm also interested in what people think of these apparently recent inventions.

Cheers,

Loop

Posted on 14 years ago
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I've never heard of them - but it sounds like a good idea.

thanks for the info

Posted on 14 years ago
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I would like to find out more about these as well...

$20 is a little steep for 40... which won't get you that far considering they recommend 2-per rod.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Interesting thread! Most leather shops have a punch that could probably make these for way cheaper and that's basically using the scraps they have laying around. Basically they are premium cow hide right? I wonder if they are treated with any type of solution to give they some type of anti slip quality? Is the sound of the drum actually improved by these and would it be significant to the naked ear? Is the principal mainly to stop detuning? It looks like there are two leather washers sandwiched in between the traditional flat steel washer. Any ideas on the thickness? 1/8th maybe?

I'm gonna give this a try!!!

thanks for the info!!

Posted on 14 years ago
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From vince182

Interesting thread! Most leather shops have a punch that could probably make these for way cheaper and that's basically using the scraps they have laying around. Basically they are premium cow hide right? I wonder if they are treated with any type of solution to give they some type of anti slip quality? Is the sound of the drum actually improved by these and would it be significant to the naked ear? Is the principal mainly to stop detuning? It looks like there are two leather washers sandwiched in between the traditional flat steel washer. Any ideas on the thickness? 1/8th maybe?I'm gonna give this a try!!!thanks for the info!!

I keep forgetting to check 'email notification' when I post.

I've been happily using the Canopus washers. I contacted Brady Drums here in Australia and they quoted me 50c per washer - roughly the same as getting Canopus sent to me from the US, but I tried to place an order with no response.

USE:

They do slow the effect of tension rod loosening, but it's not a guarantee. I still have to tighten the rim shot lug every couple of songs/end of set - both modern and vintage snares. I do, however, like the give - or suspension - it creates, which may focus the sound and provide some punch. I can also tune lower without 'rod rattle' - I love fat snare sounds.

On one snare (1971 Supra) I have found it can soften the sound too much, hindering projection. That was with some very light hoops, however.

Definitely worth checking out. Five of my snares are fitted.

Posted on 14 years ago
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I understand the chic` of leather- especially with chrome and steel- A snare drum becomes almost a Harley if your imagination can go that farMister T

Just kidding- I use plastic washers along with the usual metal and I really have very little loosening problems even with abundant rimshot activity. The Pearl or Tama washers are about 5$ for 20 and seem to last and last. Really, joking aside, I understand how cool using leather would be, but it seems it wouldn`t last very long and could be a bit priceyCoffee Break2

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Canopus made a drum for me 10 yrs ago with these washers and as much as i was confused by them,im very grateful they did use the leather washers.To this day i cant explain how they work but they do.I removed the washers and noticed a huge difference when i put them back on.Im leaving it alone.It must be something to do with absorption of sound,but my drum sounds like the most perfect studio drum in the world.Not to mention it was one of my cocobolo shells they built for me!..They do soften the sound,but i like thatClapping Happy2

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I am definately going to check these out! I had never heard of them and wouldn't have believed that they would actually make a difference in sound. Thanks for the info!

....lovin' that vintage sound
Posted on 14 years ago
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