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Downbeat vs clubdate

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There was a Downbeat snare drum that was, (not coincidently), a matched component of the Downbeat kit. This snare drum differentiated the Downbeat kit from other kits....for awhile.

That was back when most people bought kits and not shell packs or individual drums.

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Posted on 2 years ago
#11
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Gorgeous Red Sparkle "Club Date" on Reverb this morning, with a "dig deep" asking price. If I was still accumulating vintage drums and had the room to store it, I'd be tempted to bargain for this one..... see large link below. Regards, mb

https://ablink.info.reverb.com/ss/c/UlYF5YgajSaIlImJoYkPpjlXTIwApaZFMvZMbWPRApHK8I66GbVKyu7zMNERwPnzXo8tp5v3AwaPn_T3orNUCMkTGESetHrgh1UHNdEe9uULw1gEpVmrZizWoH-lx89bv_VLq3oCzC6kZwJqRMl8uSM-NmJy1LbjW81v9sHdrzr64iRINKMY9-pTfryj9sorwarU9OX0O52d6SJ8oIIa8-P0m8L-l8cb8V7njfaeHW68Yt7ZVsnOvXFhR7kxbpAc/3im/d5KFnTx5TomwcdfJS0dByA/h88/4ggF7UYxvXjlMIuu2jAwqaJNpxXmuQmp3jUEB-rNCIA

Posted on 2 years ago
#12
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Heavens, a half-price offer is appropriate. Inflation is not *that* rampant.

John

From Marty Black

Gorgeous Red Sparkle "Club Date" on Reverb this morning, with a "dig deep" asking price. If I was still accumulating vintage drums and had the room to store it, I'd be tempted to bargain for this one..... see large link below. Regards, mbhttps://ablink.info.reverb.com/ss/c/UlYF5YgajSaIlImJoYkPpjlXTIwApaZFMvZMbWPRApHK8I66GbVKyu7zMNERwPnzXo8tp5v3AwaPn_T3orNUCMkTGESetHrgh1UHNdEe9uULw1gEpVmrZizWoH-lx89bv_VLq3oCzC6kZwJqRMl8uSM-NmJy1LbjW81v9sHdrzr64iRINKMY9-pTfryj9sorwarU9OX0O52d6SJ8oIIa8-P0m8L-l8cb8V7njfaeHW68Yt7ZVsnOvXFhR7kxbpAc/3im/d5KFnTx5TomwcdfJS0dByA/h88/4ggF7UYxvXjlMIuu2jAwqaJNpxXmuQmp3jUEB-rNCIA

John/Levelpebble

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Camco Oaklawn 12 14 20 5x14 Tuxedo WMP
LW 59 SC Blue Sparkle, WMP
WFL Gold Sparkle SC, WMP Compacto
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Posted on 2 years ago
#13
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From levelpebble

Heavens, a half-price offer is appropriate. Inflation is not *that* rampant.John

Agreed, especially with the damage to the bass drum.

Current sets
2018 Precision Drum (natural maple, 10/12/13/16/20)
Gretsch USA: 1958 3-ply (white pearl, 12/16/20), 1976 6-ply (12/13/16/22), 1998 6-ply (walnut, 8/10/12/14/16/20)
Slingerland: 1963 (BDP, 13/16/22), 1966 (Sparkle red, 13/16/20)
Posted on 2 years ago
#14
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I've had both. For my ear, they are generally indistinguishable in sound but both definitely Ludwig. My experience with Club Date is not as good as with the "Downbeat" setup (double lugs). That was limited to a concern for damage/bending as a result of the long length of the rods. The other issue I had with the Club Date kit was that they did not seem to remain tensioned as well. Again, the only thing that I could relate that too is the longer tension rods. Maybe they pick up more vibration because there is more steel involved and then they are more likely to loosen up?

Posted on 2 years ago
#15
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Well pulled the trigger

bought a very nice cd in pink champagne

Just could not go for the db hope I don’t regret it

I put up pics when it arrives.

Ty fir all your input

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 2 years ago
#16
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Congrats Gary!! Looking forward to seeing pics!!

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 2 years ago
#17
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Awesome. Hope that you love them! Don't recall seeing too many Club Dates in that wrap.

Mike

Posted on 2 years ago
#18
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Last minute disclosures extreme Tom rash and repainted interior canceled deal one day I might luck out

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 2 years ago
#19
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Well I mite kick my self had them bought and shipped for 1300

Now listed on eBay but he did not say anything about Tom repair

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 2 years ago
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