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Rogers-195X Snare Not as Good as Powertone/Tower

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I have a 1959 Rogers with 3 ply/RR shell and TB Hoops.

My question is I have read that the Powertone/Tower snares sound much better.

Something to do with the snare beds and the lower rims.

Any truth to this?

Posted on 3 years ago
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My take on it is that "better" is very subjective. I think an Acrolite is "better" sounding than a black beauty. I never liked the sound of a Dynastic snare, but it looks "better" than many snare drums....and so on.

And then you have to ask if calfskin heads sound "better" than synthetic heads, too...what kind of sticks....the room the drums are in.....the player's grip and technique....and so on.

All of those things determine what "better" is...and it's still always just an opinion.

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

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Posted on 3 years ago
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From O-Lugs

My take on it is that "better" is very subjective. I think an Acrolite is "better" sounding than a black beauty. I never liked the sound of a Dynastic snare, but it looks "better" than many snare drums....and so on.And then you have to ask if calfskin heads sound "better" than synthetic heads, too...what kind of sticks....the room the drums are in.....the player's grip and technique....and so on.All of those things determine what "better" is...and it's still always just an opinion.

TB hoops were made for calf skin as were the snare beds on the earlier snare. the Powertone has different beds and the rims are closer to the head. I think that would make it more sensitve

Posted on 3 years ago
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OK...Call me un-hip. What the hell are TB and RR hoops? I have payed Rogers since 1961. I have never heard of those acronyms.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
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From leedybdp

OK...Call me un-hip. What the hell are TB and RR hoops? I have payed Rogers since 1961. I have never heard of those acronyms.

TB - Tall Boy

RR - Re-ring - He was referring to the shell

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
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How silly of me to not be a slave to abbreviations when it takes so little effort to type tall boy or re-rings (which is already an abbreviation).

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
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From leedybdp

How silly of me to not be a slave to abbreviations when it takes so little effort to type tall boy or re-rings (which is already an abbreviation).

Yes, I prefer to type the words out as well...I know some of the abbreviations, but, not many!!

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
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I just assumed that TB was for Tall Boy...because it was referenced in association to hoops... and Rogers is the only company that is associated with that term.

And RR was referenced in association to the 3-ply (which makes it wood) shell, so it had to be the abbreviation for re-ring (reinforcement-ring).

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Posted on 3 years ago
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The sd with my ds is a wsd and not a msd. They are all made by S'land. The tts and bd are also wsds. The rcs, ccs, and hhcs r made by AZ. Are those enough silly abbreviations for you? I know what they mean. You don't? Too bad.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 3 years ago
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The snare drum with your drum set is a wood shell drum, not a metal shell drum. They all are made by Slingerland. The tom toms and bass drum are also wood shell drums. The rides, crashes and hi-hats are made by Avedis Zildjian.

No problem

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
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