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Cleveland Powertone COB date?

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I'm wondering if any of you can help me date this drum. As you can see, the tag says Cleveland and has a 4 digit serial, but I know that's not necessarily an accurate measure. The Clockface is elongated, and I thought those didn't start appearing until after 1967, so I'm thinking maybe it was actually assembled in Dayton? I've included some other pictures as well, as I'm sure there are other clues I'm overlooking. Thanks!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/qFnyFg7.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/wlrH2OC.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/F5FfHWY.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/CQeGCyQ.jpg?1[/img]

Posted on 4 years ago
#1
Posts: 79 Threads: 10

And here are a few more:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/VZEPr1D.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/0FvBemb.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/SPac4Xg.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/y4rYGvD.jpg?1[/img]

Posted on 4 years ago
#2
Posts: 350 Threads: 33

Butt plate is the new re-issue version. Not sure about the rims as the pics are too close. Rogers rims had ears that were sharply down-turned. My dating chart says around 1965.

Great drum though. That brass shell is perfect for playing latin music, as it gives off a really good Timbale sound.

1974-75 Rogers Starlighter IV New England White 13/16/22 (w/Dyna)
1964-67 Rogers Blue Glass Glitter 12/14/16/20
early Oaklawn Camco Blue Moire 12/14/20
1926 Super Ludwig 5x14
1960-ish Ludwig COB 5x14 Super Sensitive
1960-ish Ludwig COB 6.5x14 Super Sensitive
1970 Ludwig COB Cut-Badge 5x14 Supra Phonic

Looking for a Camco Aristocrat SD in Blue Moire!!
Posted on 4 years ago
#3
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Irrespective of saying Cleveland or Dayton on the tag inside the drum, the Ohio-made drums were all made in the factory in Covington. The business office was in Cleveland before it moved to Dayton.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 4 years ago
#4
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Elongated clockface started in 1964 I'm pretty sure.

John/Levelpebble

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Posted on 4 years ago
#5
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From leedybdp

Irrespective of saying Cleveland or Dayton on the tag inside the drum, the Ohio-made drums were all made in the factory in Covington. The business office was in Cleveland before it moved to Dayton.

Right, of course. I meant Fullerton. I’ve heard that when they moved there they still had a surplus of the older tags they sometimes used.

Posted on 4 years ago
#6
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From kdg

Butt plate is the new re-issue version. Not sure about the rims as the pics are too close. Rogers rims had ears that were sharply down-turned. My dating chart says around 1965.Great drum though. That brass shell is perfect for playing latin music, as it gives off a really good Timbale sound.

Good info, thanks! I'll take some pictures of the rims and upload tomorrow. And I agree, the drum sounds great.

Posted on 4 years ago
#7
Posts: 79 Threads: 10

Here are a couple more, less close up, if that's helpful. Thanks!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/s7g9VKO.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/AogbuLh.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/thjh1Pb.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/tpauPfN.jpg?1[/img]

Posted on 4 years ago
#8
Posts: 350 Threads: 33

The top hoop is not a Rogers, but the bottom could be.

Here is a pic of my Powertone (#14664) from 1966:

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1974-75 Rogers Starlighter IV New England White 13/16/22 (w/Dyna)
1964-67 Rogers Blue Glass Glitter 12/14/16/20
early Oaklawn Camco Blue Moire 12/14/20
1926 Super Ludwig 5x14
1960-ish Ludwig COB 5x14 Super Sensitive
1960-ish Ludwig COB 6.5x14 Super Sensitive
1970 Ludwig COB Cut-Badge 5x14 Supra Phonic

Looking for a Camco Aristocrat SD in Blue Moire!!
Posted on 4 years ago
#9
Posts: 79 Threads: 10

Yeah, I can see the difference, thanks. That's a beautiful drum you've got there. And I'm sure it sounds as good as it looks.

My White Whale is that in a green sparkle to go with the rest of my kit, but in the meantime this COB will do just fine!

Posted on 4 years ago
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