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drums with head larger than diameter...

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like the Pearl Extender in the image...

if you played them,

how did they sound? longer sustain? same sound? lower tone? something bad?

thanks

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Posted on 4 years ago
#1
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Interesting!! I have never seen these before...

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
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Posted on 4 years ago
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From hipercussion

like the Pearl Extender in the image...if you played them,how did they sound? longer sustain? same sound? lower tone? something bad?thanks

I play floating heads. No metal or skin headring contact with the shell helps sustain. Easy to not get and pull out wrinkles so you can tune even. (I think wrinkles add stress before you tune.)

The rest I can't say except no scraping the shells or wrap. Mine are only a quarter inch over not inches like those in the pic.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 4 years ago
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do you have images? heads one inch bigger than the shell?

Posted on 4 years ago
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From hipercussion

do you have images? heads one inch bigger tan the shell?

No only 1/4 " but one snare in that pic. looks like an inch to me. the lugs are on bumps, mine are not. Mine only show daylight 1/4 around them.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 4 years ago
#5
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Premier Signia had undersize shell. This is a Youtube of someones Tama Gong 14x20 drum

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIlObaxvzJQ"]TAMA SMG20R - Gong Bass Drum (20x14) 【新宿店】 - YouTube[/ame]

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 4 years ago
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If I remember reading Al Duffy/Billy Cobham developed and then got Pearl

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfV4Z81XYDY"]20" Vintage Tama Gong Bass Drum - YouTube[/ame]

to do that/ Then Billy got Tama to do that.

Premier Signia were not as severe

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 4 years ago
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Billy Cobham July 1986 Modern Drummer:

"Some of the guys who could tell you about stuff like that are Bob Yeager at the Professional Drum Shop in L.A., and Al Duffy who’s now with Pearl. Al made all my drums back in the ’70s before I went with Tama. He’s a wealth of information.

He built that chain pedal and started that stuff. Al built a lot of my custom drums, but that stuff was happening, again, back in the’40s. You just said, “Hey, let’s make a gong drum, and let’s just do that again—put a timpani head on a 22″ shell or put a 26″ head on a 24″ shell and tighten it down.” Put some timpani lugs on it and “boooing.” All that stuff just comes about, and nothing’s new. We just use it in a different way. Players are going to take these supposedly new things coming out and be creative with them."

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gea4f5hVa6EJ:https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/july-1986-billy-cobham/+&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 4 years ago
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yes Tama gong drum or tymp-toms, the same concept. not "regular" undersized shells

Posted on 4 years ago
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I couldn't find any sound/you tube of the Pearl Extenders.

There is some Premier Signia and sounded wicked good.

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 4 years ago
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