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Slingerland grommet tool

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"to do the Slingerland grommets properly you have to buy the $65.00 tool."

I sure wish somebody had explained that to me as I tried to install one from Chicago Drum today and it turned to crap. I used the flared screw method that so many have said works (yes, I searched and found a lot of "mis"information before proceeding). But...I guess the Chicago Drum grommets are thicker than most. The tool I made is exactly like the Jammin' Sams tool and was sized perfectly. It cannot turn the raw end of the ferule inward, making it rounded as in factory assembly. Mine split and just flared out as one might expect. Perhaps the ferule was too long, but this is what was highly recommended to me as correct 3 ply size.

Who is selling a tool that works for these at best price. MyOldKentuckyDrums doesn't seem to exist, Precision Drum links are not working. I can upload pics of how it turned out tomorrow if necessary. Pic is from Jammin' Sams sight.

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Posted on 4 years ago
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I've got the Slingerland grommet tool! You're welcome to use it. I can send it to you via USPS Priority Mail. When you're done, just ship it back to me the same way. You'll only have to pay the cost of a small Priority Mail box, which should be only around $8.

PM me if interested.

-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
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To answer my own question and help other dummies, like me!

1. Jim Moritz at Chicago Drum sells the best (what I used), maybe only, grommet for Slingerland. But one size does NOT fit all. For whatever reason, my shell at the grommet is thinner than others (painted, not wrapped?), so the grommet will need to be cut/ground down on the end so that "no more than 1/16" protrudes when inserted with the badge. Otherwise what happened to me will happen to you.

2. The flathead/countersunk bolt should only be used to START the flare, then use a bolt with a flat washer to finish it off properly as factory looks.

3. Here is the video that would have been nice to explain the process without buying a ridiculously expensive "tool". https://www.facebook.com/groups/drumkey1/permalink/2107491989279323/

4. Not an expensive lesson, but more research might have solved the issue, but I did do a good bit...just didn't find this vid!

Mid 60's Rogers Pink Champagne Sparkle
late 50's Slingerland 5N kit being refinished
20's/30's Duplex kit
20's CONN kit
Vintage traps
Posted on 4 years ago
#3
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From idrum4fun

I've got the Slingerland grommet tool! You're welcome to use it. I can send it to you via USPS Priority Mail. When you're done, just ship it back to me the same way. You'll only have to pay the cost of a small Priority Mail box, which should be only around $8. PM me if interested.-Mark

Very kind of you! Can you please post a picture of that tool? After seeing Jim's video, I think I will try that.

Mid 60's Rogers Pink Champagne Sparkle
late 50's Slingerland 5N kit being refinished
20's/30's Duplex kit
20's CONN kit
Vintage traps
Posted on 4 years ago
#4
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This is very important info:

"so the grommet will need to be cut/ground down on the end so that "no more than 1/16" protrudes when inserted with the badge."

They do not tell you this.

Jerry Jenkins did one in front of me.

He cut the grommet length with a dremel with a small carborundum cut off wheel.

Then used the tapered head screw, nylon and steel washers and nuts.

I have butchered a few.

Good luck fellas.

BLAEMIRE DRUMS
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 4 years ago
#5
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From optiguytom

Very kind of you! Can you please post a picture of that tool? After seeing Jim's video, I think I will try that.

Here are some pictures I just took...

The tool didn't come with any instructions, but I figured that the die with the curved inset goes on the inside, which it did! It will properly flare and rollover the grommet back onto the shell. Comes with two spacers that go inside the grommet; the longer one for 5-ply shells and the shorter spacer for 3-ply shells.

The last pictures shows a 5-ply grommet in the tool. Hope this helps!

-Mark

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Posted on 4 years ago
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Great...looks made for the job! Is this the one that sells for $65 or so? I'm betting it does a perfect job,but after watching Jim's video...I'm ready to give the few dollar / nuts and bolts a try again. Thanks and thanks for your kind offer! (I hope I don't have to take you up on it!!)

Mid 60's Rogers Pink Champagne Sparkle
late 50's Slingerland 5N kit being refinished
20's/30's Duplex kit
20's CONN kit
Vintage traps
Posted on 4 years ago
#7
Posts: 6363 Threads: 223

By all means, try the other tool and give it a go. The offer is always open for you!

-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
#8
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From optiguytom

Great...looks made for the job! Is this the one that sells for $65 or so? I'm betting it does a perfect job,but after watching Jim's video...I'm ready to give the few dollar / nuts and bolts a try again. Thanks and thanks for your kind offer! (I hope I don't have to take you up on it!!)

Mark (idrum4fun) has the right tool. Seems silly not to take him up on his generous offer. My feeling is the rollover of the grommet will not be 100% correct using the nut & bolt method.

Posted on 4 years ago
#9
Posts: 5291 Threads: 226

I agree...Use the proper tool for the job and you will be happy with the results...

Cheers

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Posted on 4 years ago
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