Nice, Hardbat, nice.

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Only 1 Problem with old Ks..

42 years on? You Can't Pick them.. They Pick you. :)

You can't pick and chose You find what you can find. That's what happens (unless you're a trillionaire) when dealing in with a defunct Company :(

the Cymbal itself is not 'hit or miss'...

Assembling a set is (!

3 or 4 that play and blend: Count lucky Stars. :D

They come from a time when 3,4 or 5 cymbals (hihat counts a 2..) in a set was "aPlenty.

It's a bch picking..them into "sets"..

I own a few (for 20 years) not really alot..

But "that one" extra 20" you really really want? that will be "1499.00" please..

That "one" extra hi hat top that you know will just "do it".."400$ please".

My used car lot below..

Sometimes- Old Ks- on one side. Like Left hats and a 20.

And Bosphorus on the Right side. Like a 22 and a 20 Flat.

That works.

But really the experience of (owning playing gigging) Old Ks

transfers.

Like (owning playing gigging) a Gretsch set.

Transfers.

You transfer the experience into a Modern Turkish make.

And don't look back.

I would have an issue if I was going in to record. (haven't done that in a while)

nothing recorded like Old Ks. were beyond perfect.

So I may hesitate taking in modern turkish

and would feel totally at ease with the result from

old Ks.

microphones love old ks.

Agop 25th anniversary comes the closest to any I've heard to date. They emulate old stamps.

But I'm not sure that I totally agree with Mel's assessment. Those Istanbuls that he played in the video to me didn't sound as good as his old K's did. Hammering the bells is very important in creating the overall richness of sound, and except for their earliest ones they got away from doing that. That was a mistake in my opinion.

Thank You.

cymbalholic/ JMoll in the house...well Spain I believe...

with a stunning pair of type III's..

https://www.drumforum.org/threads/two-born-together-brothers-zildjian-k-istanbul.168823/

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"Two born together brothers.

A couple of pictures and a little video I made of them as a soundfile."

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what do you think Bill..pretty nice huh..lol

I like the little one. But I sure would like to hear him smack that biggon.

Both have great bell.

the scoop of ice cream with the old K pie.

To find those in Spain..is amazing sorta adds to it.

JMoll always has extreme good taste in cymbals and won't settle for less.

Old K's are really not meant for "smacking".

Yeah, beauties. By the look, I'd say IIIa for both. My favorite era. Matthias' too based on all five of his Holy Grail 22's all being IIIa's.