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CitriStrip fail-learn from Dean

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For you guys who take the time to follow my projects on this forum, you know: 1-I'll try any project as long as I have the good advice I always find here and 2-I'm admittedly, not very "mechanical." With all that, goof-ups are inevitable.

On another post, the guys here helped me identify a Ludwig tenor drum that had the blue sparkle painted over with thick and hastily applied red enamel paint.

I read here and online and decided my best attempt to salvage the tenor drum was to strip off the red enamel with CitriStrip.

Understand, I am not here to discredit CitriStrip. I am sure between my lack of experience on such things and the fact that the ugly paint was on so thick, I simply have to chalk it up as a loss but hope the info can help you if you come across a similar project.

To keep it brief, here's a step by step of my approach and results:

-roughed up enamel with sandpaper to give stripper a good grab

-rolled out thin plastic on floor, put drum on it and, according to directions, saturated the enamel with stripper. My own idea was to roll the drum up in the plastic film to keep the lifted paint soft until I could return to the project.

-let sit 24 hours

-use putty knife to scrape off enamel

-enamel is soft, bubble-gum like and very, VERY sticky to the point I could not get the soft enamel gunk to lift off of the wrap.

-reboot: saturate soft enamel with stripper, no plastic wrap this time and wait 8 hours.

-enamel is still a gunky mess that will only come off wrap in thin gooey strings. Where the paint did lift, it started to life the blue sparkle.

Disappointed at my attempt, I put the drum aside until I have time to re-think the next move.

When I came back the next day, the enamel had dried back on like solid rock! So I decided to remove the wrap, discard it and prep the shell, hoops, heads and hardware for sale.

I was glad the blue sparkle wrap came off the shell easily UNTIL---I got to the seam. Deciding to apply a little force, when I pulled the wrap the shell began to crack at the factory glued chamferred seam.

That's when I stopped and shelved the whole idea and decided to tell you about it here. I have much more pressing projects on the other burners I have to get to, so you will find this gear for sale in the coming days. It should be an ideal floor tom conversion.

BTW, on the flip side of the blue sparkle wrap is red sparkle. Dean Mister T

Posted on 5 years ago
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More pics for you. Thanks for reading. Dean

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Posted on 5 years ago
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Sorry the pics are out of order but you get the idea.

Posted on 5 years ago
#3
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I feel your pain. I used citristripe on a 15 inch maple marching snare and had the same experience. Fortunately, it did not have a wrap on it and I was able to sand it to get the paint off.

Posted on 5 years ago
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From deansdrums59

More pics for you. Thanks for reading. Dean

Maybe it`s just me, but, the finish in the 2nd pic looks cool!! Just sayin!!

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 5 years ago
#5
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Not sure citristrip is good for paint removal. I used it to remove glue residue on a shell and it worked great. Grafitti remover might have worked better. Maybe even paint stripper. There are many threads on here of people removing paint very successfully from wraps.

Posted on 4 years ago
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I used Mostenbacher's grafitti remover on a gold sparkle 60's Slingerland set painted with black enamel. Very tedious work but no wrap damage besides a little gloss flattening. It could probably be buffed out.

Posted on 4 years ago
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From vibes

Not sure citristrip is good for paint removal. I used it to remove glue residue on a shell and it worked great. Grafitti remover might have worked better. Maybe even paint stripper. There are many threads on here of people removing paint very successfully from wraps.

I had excellent results with the graffiti remover on enamel paint

over silver sparkle wraps I tried citi-strip once on the same paint over wmp and the paint came off but slightly melted into the wrap causing some of the paint residue to become almost encapsulated within the wrap. I was able to save the drum by scrubbing the affected areas with powdered cleanser. and wet sanding but citi-strip excellent on painted wood ..but never again on painted wraps

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Posted on 3 years ago
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From teverson-sr

I used Mostenbacher's grafitti remover on a gold sparkle 60's Slingerland set painted with black enamel. Very tedious work but no wrap damage besides a little gloss flattening. It could probably be buffed out.

I have used rubbing alcohol as well but it was on some plastic radio knobs that had been painted over. When you are hoping to save the underlying finish, you want something that will loosen the paint without destroying the finish underneath.

There is not a one size fits all solution because wraps were made out of different materials and different types of paint.

This requires performing a small test on an inconspicuous spot until you find the right solvent.

Whatever method ends up working will be time consuming. There is no method that involves just slathering the shell and then wiping the old paint off, exposing a wonderful finish underneath.

As far as paint remover, if you let it dry out you will end up with the exact mess that you described. This goes for any paint stripper. So if you are going to use paint stripper on something, you better make sure you are committed to checking on it and getting it all off before it dries out.

Posted on 3 years ago
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You went into the lacquer layer it is a difficult project to monitor how deep the stripper goes

Sorry fir your troubles

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 3 years ago
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