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MIJ Drums with Die-Cast Hoops

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Hi all!

A recent thread was posted about trying different hoops on MIJ drums. The discussion lead to showing an MIJ snare drum with factory die-cast hoops. I though it would be fun to show pictures that any of you might have of these drums. I'll start!

Attached are pictures of a "Karen" snare drum currently in my MIJ collection. It has the most unusual die-cast hoops I've ever seen! I'll let the pictures tell the story!

-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
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Next, here are two MIJ snare drums that I owned some years ago. The Red Pearl drum is a non-branded and the blue glass glitter drum was a Torodor. Both cool drums!

-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
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From idrum4fun

"Karen" snare drum

Oh-hh-hhh.... [IMG]http://static.musicforums.ru/agora/images/smiles/ves001.gif[/IMG]

Extremely strong hoops!!!

Cheers,

George.

Posted on 4 years ago
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From Father-42

Oh-hh-hhh.... [IMG]http://static.musicforums.ru/agora/images/smiles/ves001.gif[/IMG]Extremely strong hoops!!!Cheers,George.

Hi George!

Yes, they do appear to be extremely strong! I've never seen this style before, but someone had to design the mold to cast it.

-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
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I had a BDP Crest set in 12/14/20 that had diecast hoops on the toms that appeared to be stock.

Posted on 4 years ago
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From DrumBob

I had a BDP Crest set in 12/14/20 that had diecast hoops on the toms that appeared to be stock.

Now that would have been Cool1

-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
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the mighty ("cough") zim gar!

https://reverb.com/item/10949046-1960s-zim-gar-orange-tiger-pearl-drum-kit

the square badge zimmerman- garfield

do not---but nice story on how the "cough" mighty "zim-gar" name came about

https://www.notsomoderndrummer.com/not-so-modern-drummer/columns/phil-wilson-collection/1960s-zim-gar-stencil-drum-set

round badge zim-gar from wood and weather- notice he says "sakae" cast hoops..hmm. wnder what had him say that.

https://woodandweatherdrumco.reverbsites.com/listing/1960s-zim-gar-5x12-snare-drum-in-silver-sparkle/11683883

[img]https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--XQmvZUmW--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_1600,q_80,w_1600/v1524623125/cvbcofdhjhdzsmfqkfqx.jpg[/img]

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 4 years ago
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Great thread Mark!

I never would have thought that the MIJ drums would have die-cast hoops on them, simply because they're so ridiculously expensive! At least on the after market, your going to pay $50 each and up, according to size. You could actually spend 3 to 500 bucks to outfit your kit with aftermarket die-cast hoops!!! And I actually look at die-cast hoops as "high end" and something you would see on American made Gretsch kits, but not on low end stencil kits. I've actually never heard of Karen drums, yet it has a really cool looking die-cast hoop. Heck, even the unbranded snare has them. Really surprised.

So how do they sound anyway?

Posted on 4 years ago
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Surprised you MIJ guys never realized circle badge Zim Gar had DC quite often. Like I experienced they were not Stiff like Pearl or Gretsch "as we know them" They were very very soft and pliable.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Gem-1963-Zim-Gar-Golden-Sparkle-3-Point-Strainer-Die-Cast-Hoops-Snare-Drum/183767313369?hash=item2ac962abd9:g:Ak0AAOSwLr1cQTDm

flange hoops seem to go with rectangle badge zim gar

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Zim-Gar-60s-Round-Badge-Vintage-12-5-X-9-Tom-Drum-6-Lug-Blue-Sparkle/143477953466?hash=item2167f3d3ba:g:IxQAAOSwvZFdepG0

.................................................. ......Joe
Posted on 4 years ago
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Wow, that Zim Gar snare is a beauty. Eucalyptus? Never saw a drum made with that wood. Looks very nice.

So eucalyptus wood and die cast hoops? I guess Zim Gar drums are the high end MIJs!

Posted on 4 years ago
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