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1971 Ludwig... opinions?

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Okay, not really wanting to start a flame war, but I could use advice from the forum. As I posted elsewhere, I'm kinda looking for a 1970s Ludwig set to replace the one I had in high school (and my ex made me sell.) But I'll be honest, I don't remember much about what was available then as far as models were concerned... in jr high it was Ludwig, Slingerland and "eh, others..." I didn't know or care that it was a Hollywood, Club, etc... it was a LUDWIG when my schoolmates were paying used MIJ sets.

I've stumbled into this somewhat pricey set on reverb: https://reverb.com/item/23409338-ludwig-hollywood-1971-red-sparkle-4-pc-drum-set

Okay, it's pricey, but it's gorgeous. Same wrap as my old set, similar badges, etc. It appears to be in great condition or better. I would not gig it, my plans would be to play occasionally at home and just stare at it while mentally reliving my high school/college glory days.

So my questions: is this set potentially collectible and might retain/go up on value? I'm in my mid 50s and could easily keep it a couple of decades. Is it worth the rather high price?

I would truly appreciate thoughts and opinions. Thank you!

Current sets
2018 Precision Drum (natural maple, 10/12/13/16/20)
Gretsch USA: 1958 3-ply (white pearl, 12/16/20), 1976 6-ply (12/13/16/22), 1998 6-ply (walnut, 8/10/12/14/16/20)
Slingerland: 1963 (BDP, 13/16/22), 1966 (Sparkle red, 13/16/20)
Posted on 5 years ago
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Looks Beautiful in the pictures, Not $1750 worth of beautiful but they do appear to be in above average in condition.

I don't wish to condone this sort of pricing but it is your money so if buying these makes you happy then, why not? I've paid $1000 for a single floor tom before (14x14 RB Gretsch in a hard to find color). I do not regret that as I can always get more money but certain drums only come along on rare occasions. I don't think a red sparkle Hollywood set (or the drums to put one together) would be that hard to find but, as I said, these do look mighty nice. A lot of these sets have led very hard lives, this doesn't appear to be one that has.

Good luck with your decision. If they are lifelong "keepers" that make you happy then price (within reason) is immaterial. If you're thinking you want to toy with them for a bit then resell them I wouldn't pay that much unless you don't mind losing a chunk of money on the deal or waiting for someone else that is similarly enamored enough with the set to pay a premium price comes along (which might be a very long time).

Posted on 5 years ago
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That is a high price, but those drums do look pretty dang stinkin’ clean! Like K.O. said, if it makes you happy...

The other thing is, they have been on the market for a while. Send him a message or see if you can find a phone number for his store and chat him up. Maybe he’ll take a shining to you and knock a little off the top. Don’t cost nothin’...

Josh

Posted on 5 years ago
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Thank you everybody! Yes, they're beautiful, but after thinking it over, I'm going to pass as well. I could get two good Slingerland sets for the same money... or a used DW Performance series set.

Current sets
2018 Precision Drum (natural maple, 10/12/13/16/20)
Gretsch USA: 1958 3-ply (white pearl, 12/16/20), 1976 6-ply (12/13/16/22), 1998 6-ply (walnut, 8/10/12/14/16/20)
Slingerland: 1963 (BDP, 13/16/22), 1966 (Sparkle red, 13/16/20)
Posted on 5 years ago
#4
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Seller is a member here...Very top notch guy that has a good reputation...

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 5 years ago
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From grantro

Seller is a member here...Very top notch guy that has a good reputation...

That's very good to hear! These type of sales always involve a degree of trust, and knowing the seller is here makes the trust that much easier.

Current sets
2018 Precision Drum (natural maple, 10/12/13/16/20)
Gretsch USA: 1958 3-ply (white pearl, 12/16/20), 1976 6-ply (12/13/16/22), 1998 6-ply (walnut, 8/10/12/14/16/20)
Slingerland: 1963 (BDP, 13/16/22), 1966 (Sparkle red, 13/16/20)
Posted on 5 years ago
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You bet it's worth it after reading the reason why you want it. You can't put a price on "that feeling" when you have something that generates it whenever you see it. Will it retain it's monetary value at that price? Hard to say. Some people think all the vintage instruments will continue to increase in value. Others are wishing for a cap on prices...But, you will get the value from something else.

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
Posted on 5 years ago
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I wish it had a snare with it at that price... sigh...

Current sets
2018 Precision Drum (natural maple, 10/12/13/16/20)
Gretsch USA: 1958 3-ply (white pearl, 12/16/20), 1976 6-ply (12/13/16/22), 1998 6-ply (walnut, 8/10/12/14/16/20)
Slingerland: 1963 (BDP, 13/16/22), 1966 (Sparkle red, 13/16/20)
Posted on 5 years ago
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From Warrenwood

I wish it had a snare with it at that price... sigh...

Snare would have been a Supra, very easy to locate, but yeah, should have one included at that price level.

Posted on 5 years ago
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As the above posts point out, that Reverb kit is priced on the high side, but it is in great condition. Many VDF members know that I always say "condition is everything". The serial numbers agree with a 1971 or a late 1970, and just what you are looking for. Start a conversation with the seller and see if he will negotiate down a bit more. You've got nothing to loose! There are lots of vintage kits available, but finding those in better than average condition takes time.

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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