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Tuning old 1960's Pearl kit to sound new

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natdogmmx,O-lugs,I see your point, in retrospect my question was also very badly worded. in summary - all things equal do you find luan kits capable of delivering your desired sound?

"Desired" sound? No, not for me.

However, I have done sessions where the drum set was an old Pearl with luan shells. Without having a direct comparison to anything else, they filled the basic drum set requirements of lows and highs. I think I would have preferred to have the sound be more "lively". They did have a very cool wrapped finish, though. It was a kind of Purple Oyster pearl! Burger Kin

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Posted on 14 years ago
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"If you can't be with the one you love, you gotta love the one your with!"

very well put.

thanks o - lugs & kevins

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Quoted from O-lugs:"So, with that in mind, the OP was asking how to get his vintage laun tom toms to sound more like modern tom toms. I was guessing that meant a more sustaining and resonant sound. And, in that case, I think the laun wood has certain limited capabilities in that regard. I think the best approach is to try and find a specific head combination (via trial and error) that brings out as much sound as possible."

I agree with this comment by O-lugs completely. And to repeat myself, more than any other drum type I think Luan requires a very careful head selection in order to sound professional. I like a "jazz tuning" , if you know what I mean- so a higher tuning with only a .50 second of sustain and then cut. That`s why I choose 2-ply heads for batter and reso. Luan can do a nice jazz tuning like this just fine. But I can see how getting a boom and ring out of Luan will take real experimentation. I might be possible with Remo clears on top and bottom. Anyone ever try high quality "resos" on both sides? Also, you might need RIMS mounts as well. (This is sacreligious in my opinion)

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From OsakaBop

Quoted from O-lugs:"So, with that in mind, the OP was asking how to get his vintage laun tom toms to sound more like modern tom toms. I was guessing that meant a more sustaining and resonant sound. And, in that case, I think the laun wood has certain limited capabilities in that regard. I think the best approach is to try and find a specific head combination (via trial and error) that brings out as much sound as possible."I agree with this comment by O-lugs completely. And to repeat myself, more than any other drum type I think Luan requires a very careful head selection in order to sound professional. I like a "jazz tuning" , if you know what I mean- so a higher tuning with only a .50 second of sustain and then cut. That`s why I choose 2-ply heads for batter and reso. Luan can do a nice jazz tuning like this just fine. But I can see how getting a boom and ring out of Luan will take real experimentation. I might be possible with Remo clears on top and bottom. Anyone ever try high quality "resos" on both sides? Also, you might need RIMS mounts as well. (This is sacreligious in my opinion)

I know some people love their luan kits, and I wouldn't try to convince anyone otherwise. But from my perspective, once you're looking at the expense of new heads on both sides and RIMS mounts to add resonance, it just makes more sense to buy a maple kit. Some of the modern imports are great--I love the PDP and Gretsch Catalina lines, and while they'll never be as inexpensive as (say) a CB Percussion kit, they can be very affordable.

My first kit was luan, and I struggled with it for a year before selling it and buying a better kit used. After another year of trolling the classifieds (remember those? :)) I found my old Gretsch kit and never looked back. In the end, I paid the same for my Gretsch kit (with cymbals, including an Istanbul K!) as I did when I bought that first luan kit new from the music shop.

It's still possible to find good deals on drums made from higher-end materials, and to my mind it ends up being cheaper and less frustrating than trying to get a luan kit to sound like a maple one.

Then again, I see that the OP found a head combination that makes him happy, so more power to him!

Kits:
1950s Gretsch Name Band in Midnight Blue Pearl (13/16/22/14sn)
1965/66 Ludwig Club Dates rewrapped in Black Diamond Pearl (12/15/20)
Posted on 14 years ago
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I've got an old Pearl set that I like a lot... for the toms, I use Earthtone goat skin batter heads and on the bottom Remo Fiberskyns... I tune the 13 inch mounted tom to a D and the 16 inch floor tom to an A... They sound punchy, warm and round... On the kick drum, I have a two ply Black Evans Hydraulic batter head and usually keep the front open... It's a nice "dry" sound... I play mostly old school blues, r & b, so this works for me...

daddio

Posted on 14 years ago
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