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14" Rogers floor tom value

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From leedybdp

There are lots of things that are no longer made. This does not mean that this makes them worth a lot of money--not even those things that are of top quality. Mr. vintagemore2000 thinks that his opinions are better than mine with his small-minded statement. I tend to be cynical when it comes to a couple of things that are vintage drum related... overvaluing and Ludwig.

No Howie I really don't care what you think!!!, I use this term very loosely Howie Thinking !?!?!?! that's your problem, Move on !!! FYI

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 5 years ago
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it's a good thing some of you guys are not coin collectors!

Posted on 5 years ago
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Posted on 5 years ago
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Yeah, there are no wrong prices for things that are no longer made and from an era the likes of which will never return -ever. There is no room with "the" drum guys deciding what things are/aren't worth.

There are drums that I would sell....only because I know there are people out there who have SO much money, I could ask the sky and they could pay it without even batting an eyelash. Those are the customers I want. I'm not out to be "realistic" or haggle with anyone. My pricing would likely infuriate some people...but, oh well. When it comes to MY stuff, the price is what I say it is and the "fair market value" can kiss my ___!

:)

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
Posted on 5 years ago
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From nickmues

it's a good thing some of you guys are not coin collectors!

Exactly! I see the same thing happening all over the place with antique/vintage stuff. I bought a couple old Emerson fans that were made in the 1930s and the deeper I got into that market, the more my mind was blown in regards to the level of craftsmanship and design that many of them possessed. They were made to be serviced when they broke...by some small, locally-owned "fix-it" shop...and none of that exists anymore. The whole system of how things were done doesn't exist anymore.

Sometimes, there is intrinsic value to things that can only be determined by the seller. I have Ludwig drum sets that came from a time that harbored things like "The Summer of Love" and "Woodstock", free love and anti-war....and they just don't make ideas like those anymore, so there is value placed upon the objects which came from those old times. Civil War drums -same deal. They don't even sound "good" but they were played in a war when warfare was waged much differently....historically priceless....maybe. ;)

And it's going to be like this from here on with many, many "old" things -especially musical instruments because music is so reflective of the time it comes from.

When was the last time ANY of you has seen a complete, 1950's, 60's or 70's matched drum kit (other than a MIJ) in excellent condition? When was the last time you saw a Mod Orange kit or a Citrus Mist kit or a Ringo kit or even a bowling ball blue oyster kit for sale? How about a Slingerland Jet? Ludwig Jazzette? Downbeat? Buddy Rich kit (any brand)? Lemon Strata or Avocado Strata Standard kit? Octa-Plus? I used to see them every so often, several years ago....but not anymore! BUT, IF I see one (on some blue moon) then they are going to be stratospheric in price -guaranteed! About the most you can hope for now is to get lucky enough to find an orphan drum to complete an orphanage kit....and the day will come when you won't even find those anymore.

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
Posted on 5 years ago
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I've seen this kind of thread before. It usually pertains to someone selling a 14x14 Rogers, a COB Ludwig Super, an original wood Dyna-Sonic, a Turkish K or some other rare form of "unobtainium". Yes, they are rare & the marketplace dictates their value whether or not we are willing to pay that or agree with market value. That doesn't bother me one iota. What does rumple my feathers is seeing a fellow member have his/her sale undermined in this way. I hope the positive outcome will be that more Rogers folk end up seeing this floor tom & it ends up with a grateful owner (aka lucky b@stard). My 2 cents, for what they're worth.

1964 Ludwig Champagne Super Classic
1970 Ludwig Blue Oyster Super Classic
1977 Rogers Big R Londoner 5 ebony
1972/1978 Rogers Powertone/Big R mix ebony
60's Ludwig Supersensitive
Pearl B4514 COB snare ( the SC snare)
Pearl Firecracker
PJL WMP maple snare
Odds & Sods

Sabians, Paistes, Zildjians, Zyns, UFIPs, MIJs etc
Item may be subject to change!
Posted on 5 years ago
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Funkypoodle, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Extremely irritating seeing folks who thinks they are a price expert being so rude as to interfere with a fellow drum brother’s sale! It’s just plain “bad form”.

I participate on another forum for very expensive collectible items. It is forbidden to have price discussions on that forum as it serves no constructive purpose. Perhaps it should be here as well.

Posted on 5 years ago
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From lcondo123

Sure thing, Mark! You can find the whole collection of pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/DbbOeqFI just checked and it seems I never even listed this drum on this site for sale. It’s up on DFO. After all of that nonsense above. Go figure!Luke

Hi Luke!

Yes, this is the tom I found on eBay. It appears that it sold, but is being re-listed? Was there a non-paying bidder?

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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Worth is whatever the individual values it. At the Delaware Drum Show, a seller had a near mint condition 1967 Ludwig blue oyster pearl 14x14 floor tom. I have a 1968 bop super classic kit that I've wanted to add a 14x14 to for decades. I rewrapped a Ludwig orphan shell with Bum Wraps bop and it looks close but no cigar. Price on the 1967 was $750. It would have matched my kit perfectly but I could not justify it with my wallet. At some other time when I was more flush, I would have gone home with it. Has nothing to do with what someone else would pay.

Hope you find the one that needs/wants the tom. He/she will be thrilled.

1968 Ludwig Super Classic kit Blue Oyster Pearl
22, 13, 16, 14x5
1968 Ludwig Hollywood kit Blue Oyster Pearl
22, 12, 13, 16
A Zildjian cymbals (50's-70's)
Posted on 5 years ago
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