Not following what you're saying ha. maybe you could clear that syntax up a little;

You could see registering to post - ?

but just to read a link someone sent you on info you wanted- ?

You are seeing this and not the forums because,...and they list three, first is you are not registered.

So I can't read there unless I register.

that's what i thought you meant.

do you mean now? since it's shut down but still up , or in the years past?..

Now and for a while. It's a turn off. So I ..Turn the Page.

that's how all forums are no?

Search function still works

Can you see this?

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?13340-Tony-s-cymbals-on-November-1967-Paris&highlight=tony+williams

No. The way I see it, here is free, Zen's is here and his site is the offering he claims it to be, ....free, no sign in and it's loaded with very useful info. He gives the credit where it's due as well.

Bill comes here every time the moon turns blue and you wont find a better old K or A guy than he.

You don't have to sign in to read VDF. It's why I send cymbal links here and not there.

I cannot see the link you provided, it's the register page again.

All 143 of Zildjian R & D man Paul Francis posts here:

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1251569

For example when I acquired (used) a 22" K Dark Medium

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?2334-Ebay-gems-and-Fun-stuff&p=178162#post178162

..saying -that model could have easily been in the K Constantinople line.

and clarifying where the cup shape came from

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?12730-Someday-Zildjian-Will&p=188564#post188564

on Overhammered Bounce Ride K's.

https://www.facebook.com/Zildjian/photos/pcb.10157026093454994/10157026091144994/?type=3&theater

Only the Facebook link works. I don't think I ever heard Bill say could have.