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Vintage MIJ Snare Drum ID Help!

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So, I just found this snare drum on eBay! https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-VTG-Japan-Made-Trixon-Like-Rare-Unique-Strainer-Blue-Sparkle-Snare-Drum/183645684912

I paid nowhere near that price!

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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My first thought was Pearl as well. I have a 60's Pearl snare that is a dead on copy of a Slingerland model (lugs, hoops, etc), including the non-usual throw off. So, I figured this could be another version. I attached a few pics.

I did post your pics on a vintage MIJ Facebook group. One guy seems to have the same snare (pic attached). I also attached his reply. His snare looks gorgeous.

This is half the fun with badge-less drums haha.

Posted on 5 years ago
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Very cool snare, Mark. It reminds me a lot of a BDP "Gracy" snare that I have. I dig the extra wide re-rings.

Also, I know that strainer is not the best, but I imagine there is something oddly satisfying about moving that lever to engage/disengage the snares. Reminds me of an old-school phonograph we used to have when I was a kid. It was a similar lever that selected FM, AM, or Phono.

Posted on 5 years ago
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Hey, Mark!

I think that Mikey is right. I have MIJ lugs with hole spacings of 2 3/16 inches. I am certainly no Ludwig expert but, I believe the hole spacing on my Supra is 2 1/2 inches not 2 3/16.

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 5 years ago
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From Trilok_Gurtu

My first thought was Pearl as well. I have a 60's Pearl snare that is a dead on copy of a Slingerland model (lugs, hoops, etc), including the non-usual throw off. So, I figured this could be another version. I attached a few pics.I did post your pics on a vintage MIJ Facebook group. One guy seems to have the same snare (pic attached). I also attached his reply. His snare looks gorgeous. This is half the fun with badge-less drums haha.

Hi TG! Thanks for posting the pictures and the reply. Yes, it could be Hoshino. While the lugs on my snare resemble what Pearl was offering, they are different enough to think they might be from another manufacturer. Also, the blue sparkle drum is just like my drum, although his is missing the piece that the snare wires attach to.

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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From vyacheslav

Very cool snare, Mark. It reminds me a lot of a BDP "Gracy" snare that I have. I dig the extra wide re-rings.Also, I know that strainer is not the best, but I imagine there is something oddly satisfying about moving that lever to engage/disengage the snares. Reminds me of an old-school phonograph we used to have when I was a kid. It was a similar lever that selected FM, AM, or Phono.

Hi V!

Yeah, the strainer isn't the best, but it is cool engineering! Pretty neat about the phonograph you had, with this style lever!

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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From salty 1322

Hey, Mark! I think that Mikey is right. I have MIJ lugs with hole spacings of 2 3/16 inches. I am certainly no Ludwig expert but, I believe the hole spacing on my Supra is 2 1/2 inches not 2 3/16. Brian

Hi Brian!

All of Ludwig's USA-made drums, with double-ended lugs, such as the Imperial, Classic and Acrolite lugs, have always had a mounting hole spacing of 2-3/16". What's interesting is that many of the brass shells available to custom builders, that are already punched for lugs, have a spacing of 2-3/16"! Makes it easy to use tube lugs, Imperial or Acrolite lugs. Attached is a picture of a drum I put together, using a Worldmax brass shell and Acrolite lugs...with 2-3/16" spacing.

-Mark

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Posted on 5 years ago
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From idrum4fun

Hi Brian!All of Ludwig's USA-made drums, with double-ended lugs, such as the Imperial, Classic and Acrolite lugs, have always had a mounting hole spacing of 2-3/16". What's interesting is that many of the brass shells available to custom builders, that are already punched for lugs, have a spacing of 2-3/16"! Makes it easy to use tube lugs, Imperial or Acrolite lugs. Attached is a picture of a drum I put together, using a Worldmax brass shell and Acrolite lugs...with 2-3/16" spacing.-Mark

Thanks, Mark! I think it's time to get my glasses changed! That's certainly a beautiful drum you put together! Amazing work! Thanks again for the clarification! I'll gradually learn.

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 5 years ago
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From idrum4fun

Hi Brian!All of Ludwig's USA-made drums, with double-ended lugs, such as the Imperial, Classic and Acrolite lugs, have always had a mounting hole spacing of 2-3/16". What's interesting is that many of the brass shells available to custom builders, that are already punched for lugs, have a spacing of 2-3/16"! Makes it easy to use tube lugs, Imperial or Acrolite lugs. Attached is a picture of a drum I put together, using a Worldmax brass shell and Acrolite lugs...with 2-3/16" spacing.-Mark

Damn! I think I was thinking of STRAINER spacing! Ahhh...

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 5 years ago
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From salty 1322

Damn! I think I was thinking of STRAINER spacing! Ahhh... Brian

That makes sense! Many of Ludwig's strainers, such as the P83, P85, P86 and new P88, all use a spacing of 2.5".

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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