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I was on the drummerworld forum and someone there took a tour of the Ludwig Factory recently and was taking questions from other members. One of the questions I asked was did they talk about ever re-issuing the Speed King? The tour guy said they have no plans to re-issue the SK, because it's not what the "modern player" wants.

That's disappointing. Man, does that sound like corporate-speak or what? "Modern Player"? What does that mean? People under 40? People that only buy new Ludwig drumsets? People that only play music recorded after the year 2000?

Here's my prediction: Ludwig is going to wax nostalgic in 3-5 years and re-issue a "Limited Edition" Original Speed King for $499.99. It would not surprise me at all. And I know what you're thinking: "Why would I buy a new Speed King for that price when I can get an original and vintage one all day every day for $150 or less? Well, keep in mind this is the same company that re-issued the "Classic Acrolite" snare, complete with retro B/O badges and P-85 strainer for $429.99!! I wonder if they know you can get a "real" vintage B/O Acrolite for $150 or less all day every day.

What do you think? I can easily see this happening.

Posted on 5 years ago
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I had heard that the tooling for the speed king( casting dies, etc.) were worn out beyond being usable and that recent sales levels of that pedal were not high enough to justify the high expense of getting new ones made.

Don't know if that is true or not but seems plausible. Casting dies do wear out over time and are also expensive to make. It might not be worth spending thousands of dollars on dies for a pedal that only sells a few hundred a year when they have other newer and possibly better selling alternatives available.

Then again if enough people clamor for new SK pedals and the market would support paying a high premium price for new ones who knows? It was the pedal used by both Ringo and Bonham after all. I used one exclusively for about 20 years myself but eventually moved on to newer (less squeaky) designs.

Posted on 5 years ago
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They discontinued their best snare (super sensitive) for similar reasons.

There's an old saying of if you've never had it ,you won't miss it at work here.

Posted on 5 years ago
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From pgm554

They discontinued their best snare (super sensitive) for similar reasons.There's an old saying of if you've never had it ,you won't miss it at work here.

Ludwig is in business to make a profit. I'm sure the only reason they stopped making Speed King pedals and supersensitive snare drums is because they weren't selling enough of them to make the continued inclusion of them in the catalog profitable.

Mark
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Posted on 5 years ago
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From vyacheslav

I was on the drummerworld forum and someone there took a tour of the Ludwig Factory recently and was taking questions from other members. One of the questions I asked was did they talk about ever re-issuing the Speed King? The tour guy said they have no plans to re-issue the SK, because it's not what the "modern player" wants.That's disappointing. Man, does that sound like corporate-speak or what? "Modern Player"? What does that mean? People under 40? People that only buy new Ludwig drumsets? People that only play music recorded after the year 2000?Here's my prediction: Ludwig is going to wax nostalgic in 3-5 years and re-issue a "Limited Edition" Original Speed King for $499.99. It would not surprise me at all. And I know what you're thinking: "Why would I buy a new Speed King for that price when I can get an original and vintage one all day every day for $150 or less? Well, keep in mind this is the same company that re-issued the "Classic Acrolite" snare, complete with retro B/O badges and P-85 strainer for $429.99!! I wonder if they know you can get a "real" vintage B/O Acrolite for $150 or less all day every day.What do you think? I can easily see this happening.

I appreciate and agree with your cynicism. Having been part the supply chain in the musical instrument business, I witnessed what you predict many times. There is also the reverse of this that meets with a whole different type of cynicism from a whole different type of people. They say that it's stupid to pay $2,000 or more for a replica of a vintage instrument that would sell for at least ten times that price. Those people think that you should not play replicas.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 5 years ago
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Those people don't have any business imposing their views on what someone may choose to own or play. If they don't want to buy or play a replica, fine, that's their business.

Posted on 5 years ago
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From johnnyringo

Those people don't have any business imposing their views on what someone may choose to own or play. If they don't want to buy or play a replica, fine, that's their business.

The height of hypocrisy is when the "no replica" crap is spewed by a die hard Les Paul player.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
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