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Hey JR!

I'd prefer you to ask any specific questions you have about your purchase! However, I will say this... your kit appears to be the Londoner. The Fullerton labeled drums are early Fullerton, possibly 68 or 69. All drums may have actually been assembled in either Covington or Dayton, but two of them received Fullerton badges. I'm not sure if badges were actually applied right after the shell was made, or if applied when the kit was ready to ship, just before the heads were installed. Hopefully, other knowledgeable Rogers members will weigh in. What hardware did you get with the kit?

-Mark

I was referring to the lugs and collets.

Here's an interesting story the seller told me. The original owner played in a band that opened up for Elvis and that Elvis was shaking his tush in front of this very kit. Probably bs, but it's still a great story.

Thanks for that information, I really appreciate it.

I've never seen a green ink Rogers label. Pretty cool! Neat Elvis story too.

I was thinking the same about that green label!

As to the lugs and collets, what about them? Pictures are too small. Lugs look as they should and the collets are machined, which is to be expected. Anything else in particular that you would like to know?

-Mark

I just meant that they are in good condition. Both the 12 and 13 have the green Fullerton label.

Those Fullerton badges are puzzling. I'm wondering if they're just a poor quality ink that faded. Rogers could have been using a new printer in California for these new Fullerton badges, and maybe light exposure faded the cheap ink? We have some members here experienced in printing and graphics. Maybe they can explain how black ink sometimes fades to blue, red, or green.

Everything else on these drums (lug hardware, collet noses, tone control felts) looks proper and original for mid Dayton era and early Fullerton shells. The serial numbers and round-headed lug screws on the Daytons date the shells to approx. late 1967 to early 1968. The hex lug screws with no slots and the white tone control pads put the Fullertons at late 1969 to 1970. Of course, the date of manufacture has nothing to do with the date of sale, as these Dayton shells could have been sitting in the warehouse for some time until they were finally paired up with the Fullertons to make a full set.

And despite all the ribbing you took about buying the Rogers Book, the book wouldn't contain this kind of detailed minutia. All these little hardware changes are known only from examining the hundreds of pictures of Rogers drums posted here and on the auction sites. As far as I'm concerned, keep your Rogers questions coming.

Very nice acquisition. If you're not keeping them, you should have no trouble selling them.

Mike

I plan on gigging with this kit, but since I didn't pay much and if I decide to sell, I should at least break even.

The ink doesn't appear to be faded or somehow changed color. There's no sign any black ink like what's on the Dayton label, except for the serial number.

I think the kit's got character!