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Pre war Slingerland Radio King snare: looking for details

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Hello all,

I'm restoring this Slingerland Radio King snare. I think it's from around '39/'40 but wanted to get your opinion on its manufacture year, exact model designation, and also see if someone has information on the correct sizes of washers used to secure the snare bridges to the shell.

Story of this drum: I purchased this at auction and upon examination, found that it was brush painted in black with no original finish remaining, 9 of the 16 lugs were cracked, broken, or missing, and the top engraved hoop was missing (looking for one in nickel if anyone has a spare). When I removed the badge, I found remnants of very fragile silvery blue lacquer finish typical of their silver and blue Duco paint scheme. The flaking finish probably inspired the brushed on black paint.

Thankfully the nickel strainer, bridges, tone control, and bottom hoop, calf head, and snappy snares survived. The bridges had some inconsistency in the sizes of washers used to secure them to the shell. In each grouping of three, the top and bottom screws had the same size flat washers and lock washers as those used to secure the lugs to the shell. The middle screw used a small flat washer to allow it to fit the tight space between the two larger washers, and same lock washer as the others. (See 4th picture, 10:00 position on the photo).

I can't be certain this was the correct so I'm wondering if someone has a picture of a good original drum from this period to use as a reference. I'm currently reassembling the drum after stripping the brush painted finish and reapply my best version of the duco paint scheme. More pics will follow as I upload them.

Best regards,

Craig

Posted on 6 years ago
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The first picture shows the shell after removing the non-original brush painted finish. It was difficult to spray over the nice bird's eye maple but I always liked the original two tone look. After taping the inside of all the holes it was ready for primer. I lightly wet-sanded with 400 up to 1500 grit paper on a foam automotive sanding pad and reapplied primer until the light surface scratches were filled.

For paint, I centered it on a $4 rotating lazy susan table centerpiece from a thrift store, to allow smooth application of the two tone paint scheme. I selected and off-the-shelf color of blue and aluminum that were my best guess at the original colors and looked good to the eye on a test piece of wood.

To apply the paint, I started with the silver in the center, then added the blue to the top and bottom, working inward. The trick is to turn the drum steadily with one hand while keeping consistent distance and spray with the paint can. A final touch up of the silver covered any blue overspray in the center. Lastly I applied 3 layers of clear coat with light 1500 grit wet sanding between.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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The black washers are correct for the lugs. The correct hardware is a chrome flat head screw a black lock washer and the chrome flat washers.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 6 years ago
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Thanks for the confirmation Vintagemore2000. Looks like I'm on the right track so far. Just to clarify, does this combination and size of washer also apply to the fasteners that attach the bridges to the shell? I attached a pic of the arrangement found on the drum when I disassembled it. You can see where the large flat washers would overlap if I use them on all 3 screws.

Also, it seems the screws holding the strainer on this drum are too short. They are too short to add washers between the nut and the shell, so I'm wondering if they should be the same length and washer combination as the screws that hold the bridge on. Seems logical to reduce the types of fasteners they had to store in the parts bins.

Craig

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Posted on 6 years ago
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Yes your photo of the hardware is correct.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 6 years ago
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Looks like your doing a great job. Be nice to see the drum all finished. All the experts on slingerland like Vintagemore 2000 are always here to help get the drum exact. All the best sean

Posted on 6 years ago
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Great! Thanks again for the information. I'll post more pictures as I add hardware.

Craig

Posted on 6 years ago
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More updates on the Radio King. The badge is installed with original grommet, and lugs are on. These lugs are reproductions because I could not find enough of the early version of the beaver tail lug castings with the thin top edge. They use a metric 4mm fastener so I was able to find cheese-head screws in stainless that are about as close as I will get to the original chrome screw look. I'm saving the remaining original lugs and screws in case I run across enough to complete the drum.

I'm just waiting on some more fasteners to attach the snare throwoff mechanism. I'm still looking for top hoop is anyone has one, engraved or not. Until I find one, I'll have to use a later chrome hoop.

Craig

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Posted on 6 years ago
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Awesome work !

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Posted on 6 years ago
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I have some of those repop lugs myself, where did you buy yours from?

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 6 years ago
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