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Anyone know what kit this is?

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Good day,

I acquired this kit some time ago from a guy who said it was his grandfather's. There are no badges or serial numbers, no bottom skins or hoops, but I got a 5 star Zyn 18" rivet cymbal with it. bass and toms are wrapped in black leather. To help identify, I'm adding URLs to some pictures of the snare mechanism, lugs, dampening arms that are present in all drums, and mounting holes on bass drum. the bass drum looks like a 22", but a little narrower than standard, toms are 12, 13 and 16"

I guessed for a while that its a mid 70s Ludwig Black panther kit, but the mount holes don't match(Ludwig Black panthers only seem to have 1 mount hole, this kit has 2). An acquaintance of mine(who restores kits in his spare time) thinks its a Premier kit, but can't get more specific than that.

I am contemplating selling this, but would like to find out what it is and if its worth buying bottom hoops and skins, or if its worth something and leaving as is for someone to restore.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

Posted on 6 years ago
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Can't be sure from the photos, but it appears to be a generic Made in Japan (MIJ) kit that may even have been re-wrapped. I'm going to make the rough guess that it does not have much value - maybe $100-$150.

Some of the MIJ experts may have a differing view on it.

Posted on 6 years ago
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I knew that was a possibility too. Thanks Dan

Posted on 6 years ago
#3
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The second pic shows a slotted tension Rod which is not typical of MIJ kits. Do all the toms have those?

Posted on 6 years ago
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barryabko, all the drums have those, including the bass drum, as seen in pic 1.

Posted on 6 years ago
#5
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Planters put in garden

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 6 years ago
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Metal bass drum hoop, snare strainer, and lug/hardware style would seem to indicate a MIJ stencil kit. Sonor-type slotted tension rods are a head scratcher though!

thejohnlec
Ohio Valley
Posted on 6 years ago
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From thejohnlec

Metal bass drum hoop, snare strainer, and lug/hardware style would seem to indicate a MIJ stencil kit. Sonor-type slotted tension rods are a head scratcher though!

I thought I remember at least one MIJ Sonor clone that used slotted tension rods but also had Sonor teardrop style lugs. The kit pictured here doesn't have any other Sonor-like hardware though. It does look like it has been recovered in a Naugahyde type of wrap.

Posted on 6 years ago
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From barryabko

I thought I remember at least one MIJ Sonor clone that used slotted tension rods but also had Sonor teardrop style lugs. The kit pictured here doesn't have any other Sonor-like hardware though. It does look like it has been recovered in a Naugahyde type of wrap.

Interesting - thanks man!

thejohnlec
Ohio Valley
Posted on 6 years ago
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Yes, 60's MIJ for sure, and not high quality ones either, unfortunately. Unless you're willing to put more into a restoration than they're worth, I'd say sell them ASAP, but don't expect much $$ selling them as a project set.

Posted on 6 years ago
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