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1920's Ludwig Pedal?

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I picked up this old pedal yesterday. A little rusty, but complete and functional other than the missing beater. Three questions...

#1 Are the numbers at the bottom 7-15-24 the date of the patent?

#2 What is the likely manufacture date?

#3 Does it have any value?

Thanks!

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Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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From Mr.Toast

I picked up this old pedal yesterday. A little rusty, but complete and functional other than the missing beater. Three questions...#1 Are the numbers at the bottom 7-15-24 the date of the patent?#2 What is the likely manufacture date?#3 Does it have any value?Thanks!

Mr. Toast,

I have no idea whatsoever if this beautiful pedal has any value but, to my eye, it is a work of art! I think it is simply beautiful! If you ever want to sell it, please contact me. Thanks.

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 6 years ago
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I would think that the '09 date is the patent date and the bottom date is when this particular version was manufactured.

Mike

Posted on 6 years ago
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Brian,

I agree with you, it is an artistically designed mechanical thing for sure. I noticed the main spring coils are tapered near the top... Not sure why? Maybe because it looks cool, or maybe because it rubs less against the toe of your 1920's shoes/boots? That is an extra machining step for sure, so it must have had a reason behind it. There is even a spring under the hoop clamp arm so it stays open when you slip it on the hoop, that is a feature some of my modern pedals lack.

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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From mlayton

I would think that the '09 date is the patent date and the bottom date is when this particular version was manufactured. Mike

Nope. Both the dates are patent dates. They had multiple patents on that pedal due to the revisions at the time.......Conn produced that pedal well into the 1930's after they purchased Ludwig & Ludwig from Senior in '29.

So I would say its at least from 1925 onward.

Posted on 6 years ago
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Howdy, This model is sometimes referred to as the "Improved Original". It is similar to the original 1909 pedal but has a couple of differences, such as the date marking, heel plate shape, and the yoke. They are indeed works of art. Joe

Posted on 6 years ago
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Thanks for the additional info Pedal Pusher. Never really thought about collecting old pedals, but I guess it always starts with one.

What do these guys typically sell for?

Do you think I should try to clean it up? I kinda like the way it looks with the rust.

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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Hi,

They go for about $40 to $60. I'd say start a collection, but then again, I'm a little bias...

SAZ

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From sazemanek1

Hi,They go for about $40 to $60. I'd say start a collection, but then again, I'm a little bias...SAZ

Cool collection!!

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 6 years ago
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Yeah, nice Ghost pedals!

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Posted on 6 years ago
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